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boatfreak 08-31-2008 01:26 PM

Cumberland Crash
 
http://lakecumberland.com/forum/view....php?tid=20734

GO4BROKE 08-31-2008 03:24 PM

Island is aptly named.
Sorry for all involved.

Michael1 08-31-2008 03:28 PM

Here we go again. Another high speed night crash. How many times does this have to happen, before people get the idea this is dangerous, and can get you and your passengers killed? Think about it. You are driving blind. No high intensity lighting. No radar. No infrared. Nothing. Fortunately, this guy didn't mow down some innocent people in a boat like what happened a few weeks ago. He hit an island instead.

Michael

RedDog382 08-31-2008 03:39 PM

Photos posted in the above referenced thread show the drives appear to be trimmed way out. This also appears to be a very prominent shoreline profile that would be pretty hard to miss even at night ...

Lots of vegetation and established plants. This is not something that appeared out of nowhere recently.

BOBCATMATHEWS 08-31-2008 05:24 PM

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sad, but the drives probably hit the rocks and were forced up.

Sydwayz 08-31-2008 06:22 PM

There was NO moon out last night, and it was REALLY dark. We were out around 10:30PM at around the same latitude in VA.

Prayers to everyone involved. It appears as though the thread linked above is gone.

boatfreak 08-31-2008 07:19 PM

It is very sad indeed. I understand they are from here on the dock but I haven't met them. Just remember folks life is too short as it is so be careful and use your head.

ImaPoser 08-31-2008 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by RedDog382 (Post 2670381)
Photos posted in the above referenced thread show the drives appear to be trimmed way out. This also appears to be a very prominent shoreline profile that would be pretty hard to miss even at night ...

Lots of vegetation and established plants. This is not something that appeared out of nowhere recently.

Most likely scenario, running by GPS thinking he was just going to cut the edge of the island. GPS shows the water line at the typical high water mark, and the lake is being held extra low for dam repair, so it's 45 feet lower than where the shoreline shows on the GPS. I'm not familiar with that exact spot, but there are plenty of places where you can put it on land right now with your GPS telling you that you are 200 yards from shore.





Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 2670453)
There was NO moon out last night, and it was REALLY dark. We were out around 10:30PM at around the same latitude in VA.

Prayers to everyone involved. It appears as though the thread linked above is gone.

I was out on cumberland till a little past dark last night, and it was as dark as I've ever been out there. Some lingering cloud cover just to make sure there was no light at all.

There were multiple threads started on LC.com about it, the one linked above was merged in with the rest, so that's why it's dead.

db71 08-31-2008 08:20 PM

Is it me or has been a very bad year for night crashes? Seems like every weekend.

boatme 09-01-2008 07:09 AM

Cumberland Boat accident
 
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I took this from another site this morning

Very sad, very Bad

Early Sunday morning, just after midnight, a "fast boat" ran aground on Cemetery Island on the west end of the main lake. According to an official, the 36-foot Baja boat hit the island and overturned, ejecting a female rider onto the rocky shoreline and pinning the male driver under the boat with fatal injuries. The surviving female suffered broken bones and was hospitalized.

Sgt. Wayne Glover if the Ky. Dept. of Fish & Wildlife Resources told WJRS radio that the victim was 44-year-old William Todd Jackson, of Lexington, Ky., who died at the scene. Jennifer Haag, 42, also of Lexington, was transported first to Russell County Hospital and later transfered to the University of Kentucky Medical Center in Lexington.

According to Glover, who says alcohol is believed to be a factor in the incident, the pair were traveling northeast near the mouth of Beaver Creek, when their boat crashed onto Cemetery Island. According to a report on WKYT-TV (Lexington), the coroner says Jackson did not see the island until moments before he reached it. Jackson apparently tried to swerve out of the way, but the boat hit the island, flipped, and then landed on top of him. The TV report also says Haag suffered a broken arm.

It took the remainder of the night to free the body from under the wreckage. A signficant quantity of fuel spilled into the surrounding water. A team from Marine Assist spent much of the day recovering the vessel.

Ratickle 09-01-2008 07:23 AM

Damn.:(That sucks. Wonder how "early"? Dark?

Chuck 09-01-2008 07:28 AM

What a shame. I hope the other passenger has a speedy recovery.

PARADISE ISLAND 09-01-2008 07:35 AM

:mad::mad:Very sad

Ratickle 09-01-2008 07:36 AM

Found this, midnight.

"Lexington Man Killed In Boating Accident

A night on the lake turns deadly for a Lexington man, after his boat crashes into an island.

The accident happened around midnight near the "Cemetery Island" area of Lake Cumberland... in Russell County.

The coroner says 44-year old William Todd Jackson did not see the island until moments before he reached it. Jackson apparently tried to swerve out of the way, but the boat hit the island, flipped, and then landed on top of him.

A woman on the boat was thrown off and suffered only a broken arm."

Chuck 09-01-2008 07:42 AM

Just a year and a week diffrence from the two boats that ran aground the Friday night before the poker run last year.

Marginmn 09-01-2008 07:57 AM

The guy might have been allright if he hadn't swarved at the last moment. He may have just run aground like the countless other boats that have done that. The police report says that they suspect that alcohol was involved.

The spot where he was killed is just a few miles up the lake from our place at a marina on LC. We went by that spot on our way back from dinner in a friends boat earlier that evening. There were just a ton of boats out there after dark and from all the spot-lights turning on and off you could tell that many of them were Holiday Weekend boaters that didn't know the lake.

We saw the boat upside down on the island yesterday and it was a very disturbing site to say the least.

Prayers to the familys. :(

jayboat 09-01-2008 08:40 AM

Article says it was a rental. Running at night in that kind of boat with a low level of experience (assumption on my part) would seem to be a bad combination.

Condolences to friends and family.

ImaPoser 09-01-2008 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by Chuck (Post 2670723)
Just a year and a week diffrence from the two boats that ran aground the Friday night before the poker run last year.

Heck, two more went up in the exact same spot as those two did last year on one of the earlier holiday weekends this year.
I think more weekends than not, I've read of a hard grounding on the lake this year.

getchasum111 09-02-2008 10:37 AM

i see him in harmon creek every saturday...i don't think that it is a rental...he was on the lake every weekend in that boat...

SCARABJ 09-02-2008 12:46 PM

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he went by the name TJ. heres a pic.

glassdave 09-02-2008 01:00 PM

Cumberland is an extremely difficult place to navigate at night. Running at anything above idle speed in some of those areas is ridiculously irresponsible. I have been there many times at night and the way the geography is makes it near impossible without, at the very least, moon light. If alcohol was indeed a factor about all i can say is i am glad no one else lost their life, this is so senseless and easily avoidable.

Shanghied Again 09-02-2008 02:28 PM

Who would rent Hi Performance boats? They would have to be out of there mind! Insurance and Liabilitys and turning over the keys to a person that has not been to a class or ran a boat like that. Its a shame and my prayers go out to everyone involved.

TCBoss302 09-02-2008 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by Shanghied Again (Post 2671866)
Who would rent Hi Performance boats? They would have to be out of there mind! Insurance and Liabilitys and turning over the keys to a person that has not been to a class or ran a boat like that. Its a shame and my prayers go out to everyone involved.

I read on another site that he and a good friend partnered on the boat. They have had it for 5 years.

satisfactionII 09-02-2008 05:16 PM

real sad story My condolences and prayers for all involved.

TBAG 09-02-2008 05:23 PM

Very sad, hopefully everything goes well next weekend for the Poker Run., as there are many more people in performance boats running around at night. Heck look what happened last year, 2 boats grounded in the same spot. I'm going to leave Harmon before dark, head straight to State and stay there.

45sonic 09-02-2008 05:50 PM

Very sad indeed. Condolences to everyone involved.

jayboat 09-02-2008 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by Shanghied Again (Post 2671866)
Who would rent Hi Performance boats? They would have to be out of there mind! Insurance and Liabilitys and turning over the keys to a person that has not been to a class or ran a boat like that. Its a shame and my prayers go out to everyone involved.

My thoughts exactly. In fact, I was even thinkin... damn, I might have to make a trip there and rent one...

If it sounds too good to be true.

Still doesn't change the facts in this sad story.
Again, condolences to all his friends and family.

38Lightning 09-02-2008 07:00 PM

Hate to read about a loss of life. Any accident with a fatality is one too many. RIP TJ. I personally am scared as hell to boat at night even in waters i have boated in for the past 2 years. Not saying i do not occasionally get caught in the dark but can see how accidents unfortunately can happen very easily at night.

Last month 5 guys under 25 were killed in a boating accident around a curve out here(Blind River) when 2 boats made mirroring images of each other at the last moment. Really sent shock waves through the community.


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