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Old 09-19-2008, 10:27 AM
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Salesmanship - ...They can't make everyone happy, so set the rules up front and give the racers a reason to join and want to race, and quit trying to appease everyone -...
Now THAT I agree with !!!
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If I may, I would like to make one other suggestion... Don't allow a single sponsor to control the whole show.
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I disagree.
In 1998/1999, how many boats were committed to APBA Offshore?
A lot of them ...except the ones that were running SBI...and US Offshore/OPA....... In addition you had the guys who only raced in the Great Lakes...or California.

Gene made tremendous progress and 1998-99 was a tribute to that....but it didn't take long for OSS to come along and fracture it. In addition the head of the LLC suing the APBA didn't help much either.

THE POINT is the individual wants and needs of the racers must take a backseat to the needs of the sport....or there will be no sport.

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T2x,
I follow your POINT and agree, but I saw many factors fracturing APBA before OSS came to be.

How different would things be if SBI and APBA would have joined then instead of later in response to OSS?
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I think too many chiefs, not enough indians - everyone knows how to do this better, needs to be a plan and leadership.

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Yea but the boycotters were supposed to save the planet. Ron P is a good guy but how long will he hang on now?
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T2x,
I follow your POINT and agree, but I saw many factors fracturing APBA before OSS came to be.

How different would things be if SBI and APBA would have joined then instead of later in response to OSS?
They didn't really "join"...the LLC sort of kicked the "rights" over to JC...and he has done nothing with them other than to add the APBA name to SBI.

Now you have APBA/SBI, OPA, OSS, and Super Cat something or other, and whatever AMF is(Offshore, Garveys, Jersey Speed Skiffs...etc).....That's four + separate and distinct entities....when no more than one can succeed in any real fashion..... especially in today's ridiculous economic times.

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I know which 1 will succeed get rid of the huge egos and know it alls let the sport grow case in point OPA
OPA has no major class to draw fans....and a competition model that requires a degree in political science to decipher.

Other than that it has great enthusiasm, and strong loyalty from many of its racers........... but like a marriage based solely on blind love, it needs some real fundamentals before it becomes anything more than a bunch of joyriders IMHO.

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They didn't really "join"...the LLC sort of kicked the "rights" over to JC...and he has done nothing with them other than to add the APBA name to SBI.

Now you have APBA/SBI, OPA, OSS, and Super Cat something or other, and whatever AMF is(Offshore, Garveys, Jersey Speed Skiffs...etc).....That's four + separate and distinct entities....when no more than one can succeed in any real fashion..... especially in today's ridiculous economic times.

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