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seanclong 03-08-2002 09:50 AM

Recommendation for lab finishing prop
 
I have a small burr on one of my prop blades and I figure I might as well have the prop labbed rather than just repaired. The prop, for what it is worth, is a Mirage Plus 23 pitch. Anyone have a place they recommend? I would appreciate any and all suggestions.:D

KAAMA 03-08-2002 09:55 AM

York propeller in California. A couple years ago the did a test Lake -X with a bunch of lab finished props and York's even beat out Merc's by 1 mph. Plus they only charge $150 compared to Merc's $350. Call "Tommy" at WPM and he will give you the scoop and get you set up. 909-371-7567

seanclong 03-08-2002 09:59 AM

Thanks KAAMA. That's just the info I need. The local prop shop wants $117 just to take out the burr. They don't even do lab finishing...:eek:

Clay Avedisian 03-08-2002 10:48 AM

I'm using DAH PRO-Pellers in WI, 262-534-4440 and ask for John. Tell them what the boat is doing, speed-trim-etc, they can get you some great results. Clay F2-40 Lady Hustler

Advantage_Rob 03-08-2002 11:06 AM

hey sean, I have the same question also, so I'm going to jump on the bandwagon with you. My advantage runs really flat, and I've tried alot of different props and settled on the the bravo 1 4 blade props work best for bow lift, with a 30 pitch my rpm's are at 4900, a bit low, and a little lower with a big load and lots os fuel. I have 28's and I am all over the rev limiters (5150) w/them, but great for big loads, but I still get occasional rev limiter hit's so I got the 30's to see what happened. Now I hear thru this board, lab finishing will get my rpm up by 200 which is where I want to be, but I'm also looking to get a bit more cup in the prop for additional bow lift, York, Bronson hill, and merc are my 3 options so far. Who would be best to meet my needs, price vs. quality? I had my cat props re-labbed by merc and they did a great job, but thier operation seems almost too big to meet my personalized needs and cup the prop, but I dont know anything about merc other than they charged alot for the 2 props to be done last time. I feel a smaller shop like one of the other two would meet my needs, and offer a better price also. What haave you guys experienced with these places??

seanclong 03-08-2002 11:18 AM

Rob -- I just spoke to John at York five minute ago. He was more than accomodating. He basically asks about your props, power and boat, then discusses where you want to go from there. He is very easy to talk to and very knowledgeable.

In my case, since I have a burr on one of my blades, I am going to send him my prop, and then he's going to call me to talk about my options once he sees the prop. He was very honest and straightforward about what I could expect. He doesn't seem like the type of person to promise the world in order to get business. All told, with shipping, my prop is going to be $177.00.

He said his turn-around right now is about 10 days due to the nice weather. Damn Californians...:D

Advantage_Rob 03-08-2002 11:39 AM

Thanks for the info sean, I have heard nothing, but good things about them, and this is probably the kick in the ass I needed to get mine sent out.

baja27 03-08-2002 12:13 PM

I just got back my prop from York. They did a great job.:)

Reindl Powerboats 03-08-2002 07:36 PM

www.propellersonline.com

Goodfella 03-08-2002 08:30 PM

We use the master in the southeast Mike Eggleston at Frank&Jimmies. We have seen 3 mph over Mercury's lab finished jobs.:cool:

thunderdan 03-08-2002 08:47 PM

goodfella,

what kind of cost at Frank and jimmies to lab 2 bravo 1's?:)

Goodfella 03-08-2002 08:54 PM

What's Up Thunderdan!
Nice to see Ya!
Mike gets $300.00 per prop for lab finishing and thinning of the blades. He will scan the prop before and after to show you what you are paying for other than MPH:)

thunderdan 03-08-2002 08:58 PM

Thanks Goodfella:D

boathead 03-09-2002 07:07 AM

York Propeller
 
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seanclong,
I agree with KAAMA, York does first rate work if appearances mean anything, my Bravo I's look better than new. John was a great guy to deal with, very accomodating and helpful. I paid $400 for both my 28" s including shipping from MI. Had 'em repitched to 29" , sure beats the $350 a piece that Merc charges.
If you have a couple old milk crates, they are just the right size for shipping the Bravos - keeps 'em protected , John was impressed with my packaging! Hopefully when I get my ECU's back from Tyler Crockett, I can splash the boat in a couple weeks and try the new wheels- I Can't Wait!!!!
Good Luck,
Paul

KAAMA 03-09-2002 08:19 AM

Boathead (Paul),

Those props look great don't they? It would be nice if you could have gotten some CLOSE UP shots of the leading edges of the blades in your photos. That's the difference that I noticed when I held my York's up to some Merc labbed props for a side by side comparison. For the rest you guys looking to have your props lab finished, it's the finish and the consistancy of the blades. Merc's were very inconsistant...also, York obviously polishes up the entire prop as well----Merc doesn't! York says/believes that the polishing of the prop does NOT hurt performance. Audacity (Joe), had an extensive phone discussion with John York about why York polishes the props and Merc's theory of why they don't. Audacity races boats and has his own pleasure boat. He was a hardcore believer of how Merc lab (and another company) finished their props and he used them...of course until he tried a pair of York's. As far as I know (unless he has found a better lab finishing shop) he still believes in and uses York! Tommy at WPM 909-371-7567 can tell you how they have tried SEVERAL prop shops with their lab finishing compared to York's workmanship and performance. In their comparisons, York always came out on top. In all fairness, perhaps there are other prop shops out there that do just as good of a job as York that are trying to build their reputations. And Merc sounds like they do a pretty good job. If there is a better lab prop shop out there than York then WPM is not aware of it at this time...especially for $150 per wheel.

liquid asset 03-09-2002 09:45 AM

I should get mine back from bronson hill this week, $200, I'll post the results, Byron was first rate, really a helpfull guy, www.propellersonline.com

boathead 03-10-2002 05:14 PM


Anyone ever try Black Dog Propellers?? I hear they have once of those fancy Prop Scan computers.
Troutly,
It's not the computer, it's the guy with the welder and the right angle grinder!! LOL And besides, what happens if they are running windows, does it crash your prop, too?????
Another smartass reply,
Paul

boathead 03-10-2002 05:23 PM

mark,
don't forget that joe likes fords too, it only figures he'd like Mercs labfinishing!! LOL Hope Joe sees this , I need a lively discussion to keep thing interesting...... By the way, I hear he's going to race on the Hogs Breath Team this Year... Congrats, Joe!!!! I hope to see you kick some As* this year.
Paul

Gordo 03-11-2002 09:18 PM

DAH Pro Porps
 
Send em to DAH in Wisconson. Best money I ever spent on prop work.

SCARABJ 03-11-2002 10:04 PM

Anyone with a phone number to york??

GREENGOS 03-12-2002 12:59 PM

JOHNS NUMBER AT YORK (714) 773-5444
JOHN IS A GOOD GUY!!!
BRIAN(GREEN-GOS)

seanclong 03-12-2002 01:29 PM

My prop went on the truck today headed for John York. I'll keep everyone updated as to the progress. :D

seanclong 03-12-2002 01:35 PM


Originally posted by Troutly
Anyone ever try Black Dog Propellers?? I hear they have once of those fancy Prop Scan computers.
Troutly,

Black Dog does not lab finish props. They do the prop-scan thing. Depending on your needs, this may-or-may-not be what you're after. Can't hurt to give 'em a call. They have an office hear in MD on 410-604-2861. Let us know what's up with the prop-scan if you do call.

fastedy 03-12-2002 05:20 PM

I use MURPHY'S PROPELLER SHOP in Norfolk VA, great results and
great turn around time , they have helped me out in a bind.

757-853-4731

Eddie Simmons
superboatusa.com F1-68


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