low_psi

Ditto, I replied to Bob's post in the other thread (before it was closed) in a very similar manner. (actually almost word for word. Are you plagiarizing me?? J/K)

Bobthebuilder

My concept was not intended to address the guys at the back of the pack just the ones way out front. For clarity, the pace helicopter is for the extreme class only but no reason it couldn't be expanded to other classes but will come down to dollars I'm sure. I have seen the situation you describe many times and often the guys at the back of the pack they look like they are hanging on for dear life but are having more fun than the guys with the serious faces up front. LOL I think with them it's a matter of getting them to follow the rules as well.

Crude Intentions

iTrader: (1)

The pace chopper is a good idea. I'm still on the page where poker runs in lakes and rivers need a speed limit and just do a seperate shootout. Loto seems to do it close to right.

low_psi

exactly!!!

Bobthebuilder

I agree. Yes Stu is very safety conscious and does a good job running his events. I do not envy him trying to keep over 100 cowboys in line. LOL I am not right up on what all his safety fee covers but I think it involves helicopters and maybe he can look at re configuring things to put one up front as I'm suggesting without any additional cost.

skaterjim

just a thought how about more shootout style events like loto, no wake zones saftey areas for spectators. works well at loto

POWERPLAY J

Great idea! But when? If most runs are on Sat would it be held on Fri? Just thinking about spectators and the people that can't afford to get there earlier than Fri night. Also thinking it would need a separate entry fee due to permits and insurance. Would it really deter people from going balls out on the pokerrun still?

skaterjim

The guys that are running fast in these events enjoy running their boats thats why they do it thats why we all buy fast boats,that will never change. then if poker runs had a more reasonable 100 mph speed limit and a shootout style race it should make all happy and safe. 60 mph is to slow! to set that type of event up in a weekend would be a challange but I am sure there is a way. Maybe grudge runs 2 at a time would speed it up.Like I said its a thought.

Cat & Mice

I understand the idea of the pace helicopter but not sure I love the idea.

I like the idea if running all out for part of the course, we need to figure out a way to keep it fun but safe.

The format that Desert storm has is good if its enforced and maybe some minor tweaks.

Have a pace boat until you get into open water where its easy to control the spectators and clear the area. Then set up a area like the shootout that everyone can safely open it up with a finish line before the actual card stop.

Also require proper safety equipment. Loto does that for the shootout and it works. I am pretty sure the right gear could have saved lives.

MP

Ultra Boats MW

So high speed & also the guys running in the back. I've also noticed a bunch of Center Consoles this year at events as well. They're usually packed 8-12 deep and trying to break 100MPH with everyone hanging on for dear life, so what's the solution? I like the chopper idea, but believe it should be for the first run group and possibly the second depending on speeds. Wear your jacket, wear your lanyard, drove sober, drive offensively and be prepared to slow down and get off the sticks/stick. Also, if you can't make a safe, evasive maneuver then you're going too fast.

Btw, I wear my seatbelt while driving everyday, not because it's the law. I wear it because I know **** happens no matter what I do to avoid it. If I drive faster **** may happen faster or because I drove faster I avoided an accident 20 seconds ago that I could've been involved in. Who knows? The Man upstairs and that's what it all comes down to!