Yes and dont eat the KAPUS BURGERS!!!!

Not only did PS send second payment of 10,000. but he sent an extra 2,000 to show he was serious about purchase.

theres 2 P's in Kappus. You better set your sh!it straight :grinser010:

:food-smiley-007:

Should I not ask what was in the Kappus burgers?

DITTO!!!! put me on that PM list too.

I'm not inclined to go back through this thread and find it, but where was it determined that LDD damaged the boat at the ramp? I thought it was only the trailer that was damaged by being dropped off the edge of the ramp. :confused:

If you follow the link in post #347 you will see the damage to the boat

Okeeedokee...........
Wow.......... and to think I almost..... ALMOST... thought about looking into buying that boat whan I saw it come on the market.... I've always had a thing for Chris Cats. I think I'll stick to my Whaler for now :drink:

My 2-1/2 cents
 

Everybody seems to be on the side of the so called "victim" here. I'm on the side of "whats right". Read every painfully ignorant piece of this thread. Duck owes ole boy the five grand and some change refund of the difference and thats it. All ya all that say the boat sold for more it's "put up or shut up" show some proof of the deal or quit making bogus claims. Now for the "victim" 1. You started to buy a boat sight unseen and without a survey. There was some chatter that you asked the donger to get it surveyed for you and he didn't. You NEVER EVER trust a seller's survey!!! You hire your own surveyor period!!! 2. You signed that "please break me off" contract. For all ya all sea lawyers on the site he was not under duress to sign the contract he signed it of his own free will & stupidity. So do not expect the judge to attempt to put the tooth paste back in the tube. 3. He failed to comply with the contract that he himself signed off on. Offering to pay up a day or 2 late doesn't cut it. One second past midnight of the deadline and ole boy was in breach of the contract and subject to it's terms. If ya had cold feet over the dock rash, by all means complete the deal then turn around and sue the donger over misrepresenting the condition of the boat. But by all means read item #1 of this post first. All things said it's an under $50k boat you should've rolled on the donger with cash in hand. Check the boat & THE PAPERWORK!!! "Dock Rash?" sit down and haggle over it. Pay up & take the boat and paperwork with you. The lawyers are involved? You just might end up losing more money. Lawyer should've been involved when the two of you were busy making that "please break me off" contract. Your lawyer would've told you your an idiot if you sign this. In all fairness donger owes ole boy the difference which pends on what the "proven" sale price of the boat was. It's a known fact that boats often sell for a lot more than what the bill of sale says. The bill of sale is often undervalued to commit tax evasion. Good luck on trying to prove that cause niether party to that transaction is gonna say anything contrary because it would be confessing to a criminal act. All things said the buyer didn't do his due diligence and signed off on a "please break me off" contract and donger took advantage of the situation. For all ya all that are saying sic the law on the donger? If the donger can prove that he made a an offer to refund "THE DIFFERENCE" (obviously a lot less than what the buyer wants back) the donger is off the hook with the law and the buyer is on the hook for making a false statement to the popo. This is one of the cases where you want to stay on the civil side of the courthouse. However if at the end of the day the civil court judge determines there was "criminal activity" the judge is bound to report the criminal activity to the proper authorities. All said because of all the money moving around the marine industry on all levels is just one big snake pit. Always put your chaps on before you step in but even then one of em will find a way to bite you. In closing this whole chit storm is kinda of one sided when if you step back and look at it both parties have a pile of dirty laundry. According to the whole story posted in the end the donger offered to refund the difference and buyer refused cause he feels like it's not enough. Well a judge is gonna have to decide what "enough" is. Don't be surprised if the judge finds donger's refund offer proper and finds your law suit "frivolous" and jacks you for the donger's legal fees. It could go that way. It could go that way. Remember both side's lawyers are gonna tell their client they can win the this but in the end one side is gonna lose. This means there is a 50% chance your lawyer is wrong!! :drink:

Umm... no... two lawyers each telling a client that they are right does not actually translate to a 50/50 chance of successful litigation. Y'all.
The evidence and existing contract law have something to do with it. The used car salesman's contract won't be viewed favorably.
No matter how niave the victim may have been. Y'all.

Interesting take on this situation.

If I tell Fabricator that he is NOT going to win the lotto, and he tells me that I am NOT going to win the lotto.... we each have a 50/50 chance. :D

I have been on this board for some time now and actually I purchased my present boat off this very site from another member. All our transactions went well and we still email each other even a year after the purchase to keep up with things like how the boat is running and telling each other our tall tales.
We actually became friends..................(hi Todd)

I can't imagine a guy like this LDD and the way he is conducting himself, hiding behind a photocopied piece of paper and claiming rictousness from this parchment? WTF?

Do the right thing man and give the guy back his money you )(*&^%$#!

UNBELIEVEABLE!

I even went to the links which were posted by others in this site, and by the way thank you to those individuals who posted them, regarding the other scams this LDD is pulling to keep all of us informed, like the speakers he took money for and never delivered and the other boat that he tried to sell that he never owned.
I saw the pics of his house over on the boatfreaks site that he claims he now owns and his lavish life style. We can see now how he can afford such oppulance....by scamming others!
This guy is unbelieveable and I wonder how he sleeps at night? I would be worried some guy might walk up to me and put a bullet in my head if I conducted matters in the same way this guys does?


my two cents..........................................:fo od-smiley-007:

I also bought my boat through this site from a dealer in Florida. After a number of conversations and many pictures, I sent him a deposit and flew down there. The dealer was fantastic and the boat (Powerplay) was everything he said it was. We took it out for a test on the water and finalized the deal.

Smooth as silk.

You see ldd, that seller had character and integrity. Two words you know nothing about.

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If that is the way you feel, working the angle of the law by the "minute after midnight" is the right thing to do, Thank You for pointing that out, I'll remember not to do business with you.
Not because I have any intention of skirting a contract, or even so much as a handshake.
I'm just the kind of guy that wants to see it work out for both parties for the best, even if I take a few bucks less than what I expected, we're both doing alright on the deal. I'd rather make a couple bucks, instead of a pile of money, and be respected for being an honest guy. Wow, my integrity is worth more than a dollar. I'm sure you and LDD couldn't possibly fathom the thought of that.
But to work the angle of the "midnight minute", and then sell again, possibly twice...
I don't see where it will win in court, but I've seen stranger things happen in court rooms.
It doesn't make them right in the big scheme of things.
And I thought boaters always looked out for each other - I thought it was a Maritime law... Maybe I'm just nostalgic...

Ummm... check your math... it's 50/50 only if you and Fabricator are the only two playing.

Who said we were letting anyone else in on it? :ernaehrung004:

I want in!! (lotto)

On a serious note, I do want to thank everyone for their support.

At this time there is still information being held. Basically, its assumed that LDD is being sued due to a contract, assumed... I'll leave it at that.

When/if this makes it to court, it will be made public.... Hell, come sit in on it.

See you there:drink:

I don't even read what you write. I always end up focusing on your avatar.:cool-smiley-027:

THis is the most fhucked up thing I ever seen.
I don't know the whole story and I'm not about to read 27 pages here and who knows how much at other sites.
Not taking any sides either, since I do not know the story.
The seller and buyer should try to resolve the situation. If anyone wants to help.. that's fine and great, but no way all this posting BS should be relevent since none of us knows what's really going on. So all the inuendos,, the threashing,,, the acusations,, etc. etc.. is all BS. Everyone knows that a business transaction can go to heII. Appearently this one did.
All this postnig and opinions are truly BS for the most part.
I got screwed by 2 guys in NJ. One here on OSO who gave me fals info on the items, and misreperesented the items. The other was Dennis Freedmen. (not on OSO that I'm aware of).
I kept the details out. If I sue.. I will but... all the BS comments are just that. BS. Let these two guys resolve it.
Where are all the Jersey boys when I'm out over $15000 for breach of contract by one of an OSO buddy?
How about getting after Cobra for breach of contract for $3000+??
Again. I'm not taking sides here.. but geeeiiisshhhh.. there is a lot of BS being posted.
WHo knows what's fair and nice with this? Let those two resolve it and move on.
I have a suggestion for both.. FIX IT.... no one wins with lawyers involved but the lawyers.

All I would add is that I would never ... ever screw another boater.. no matter how many times I got screwed by one.

Ummmm.....
We aren't the only two playing.... hence the choice of lotto. It was an extrapolation of premise.

Speaking of extrapolation of premise.... check your nose. It is poking around the bear's butt.

Pay the kid back his money. There maybe some tax implications (and investigations) that you haven't thought of

Wonder if the IRS would consider monies paid to Duck Dick as taxable income?

People are getting back from KW I see...:drink:

of course it is "INCOME"
he became more liquid when he received it.


DUCK IS DONE and he knows it he sitting back reading all of this, i would be worried that he could be a risk to himself...then you dont get anything back...

I'm sorry for your losses in past dealings, had you reached out and asked I'm sure many would have helped. I've never turned anyone down who asked for help.

BTW, you could just PM me, you don't have to go through Anthony

No problem Prostock, I did post some of my issues, but due to a potential legal case it dosen't belong to a forum.
AS far as a PM.. I didn't read the whole thread and wasn't about to. I just saw Anthony's number and just called.
This issues is between you and LDD. Everyone elses imput is pretty errelavent. It's nice to have the support, but I strongly suggest that you two talk some more and try to resolve this.
No one knows the whole story but you two, so forget all the BS for a minute and talk to each other some more.
That's all I wanted to accomplish.
I don't know what's the answer, but there is a poblem and there should be a solution. Both of you needs to keep an open mind. That's all of my .02

Peter, I agree whole-heartedly. This was initially kept private until LDD posted it. We were in private negotiations about this until now. I have been advised via my legal counsel to have no contact as per making any agreements. I have his attorneys information and his lawyer should have mine (should definitely be by tomm). No hard feelings. George

P.S. - I hope any legal actions are turned in your favor. Best of luck

P.S.S. - I just want you and everyone to know, I never asked for support, or cried pity. People are coming out and saying their feelings with what ever is posted which I admire. I just want whats correct for everyone.

Thanks OSO

Holy Fark!! I leave you guys alone for a few days and this breaks out..... I know the answer but I will wait for you guys to spend several thousand to figure it out.

[QUOTE=prostock85;2737322]Peter, I agree whole-heartedly. This was initially kept private until LDD posted it. We were in private negotiations about this until now. I have been advised via my legal counsel to have no contact as per making any agreements. I have his attorneys information and his lawyer should have mine (should definitely be by tomm). No hard feelings. George

P.S. - I hope any legal actions are turned in your favor. Best of luck

P.S.S. - I just want you and everyone to know, I never asked for support, or cried pity. People are coming out and saying their feelings with what ever is posted which I admire. I just want whats correct for everyone.



Cool , sounds like you got all your paperwork in order now and you'll get whats coming to you

Give us a hint! :D

Yes it is. Ill gotten gains are income, you don't ever want to go thru a IRS forensic audit. Cash does leave a trail.

Sales tax fraud is another big problem, I have a fomer client that is serving two years for it plus forfieted cash and property.

One of these days i hope guys like this end up with tatoo's of boobs on their backs and a cellmate named Bubba

from the pics of him, sporting the chin strap and the tight jeans, im thinking his tattoo of choice would probly be more like some handle bars on his lower back

Love it, lets fire up some tshirts! Profits to go PS's attorney fees.

lol !!! But more than likely true:rolleyes:

Thats a good idea.I have been trying to come up with some kind of fund raiser for Prostock and this could be it.Anyone see any legal ramifications with this?

Anthony

"Don't get ****'d by the Duck"
"Ethical Schmethical"
"I don't invest...I have PROSTOCK" :evilb:

I havent been around here to much.and really can't remember.....but is this the same guy that was looking to expand his business with coin in for some type of return....Thanks