Theoretically... if it already had nowhere to go..... Was bottomed out.... he could actually honestly claim that his reputation did not suffer. I beleve it. I don't like him any less than I did before.

This is absolutely the biggest crock of chit I have ever read or seen.
Not taking sides with LDD he is an idiot. Can’t hold his tongue to save his life.
PS is a bigger idiot. Looking for a bail out form all of OSO for help to his teeny bopper screw up.
Most of you legal and moral experts need to shut the phuk up. If LDD has any brain cells he can sue IB, OSO and everyone involved ruining (may be further, but that is irrelevant here) his reputation due to all this LDD bashing. And all of you LDD bashers and PS supporters, think about a few things.
Many of you are businessmen. Some have employees. You send out invoices. You RELY on timely payment so you can pay your bills, and wages. One of your customers decides that he will pay you later. No matter why. You don’t get the funds you need to pay your employees. You have to borrow money or cash in CD’s. Do you think you employees care? Do you think your suppliers care why you didn’t get YOUR funds, and why you can’t pay your bills now.?
LDD may be a low life for not doing the right think. Right think for whom? Your sorry azz little young idiot who signed a contract? He already has boats (or boats) he is buying a toy. There was consideration, there was an agreement. There was no duress. He phucked up. Plain and simple. All of you morons are just looking for attention on OSO with your idiotic comments. NO ONE KNOWS THE real history of events.
I have yet to see an attorney make a professional post.
The attorneys will have a field day with this, and all of you low life posters may get lucky if LDD’s wife or some one related to him (even in business) won’t sue IB, OSO and all the individuals for the bashing and liable.
LDD could lose the actual case (he won’t) and win bigger and more $ that he ever made if he play his cards right. I would. All of you can “bash” me all you want, but this thread is just sick.
LDD can’t regain his reputation, but he and PS could put and end to this. Why should LDD pay the $12K? Everyone will forgive him? Become best of buddies? Where is the logic and the “reasonable gain” for moneys returned? No where.
LDD needs to offer a reasonable amount to settle. And it’s not $14k not even $12K. Quit dreaming. You guys feel sorry for the little kid, but “little kids” 18+ drive millions worth of equipment and make life and death decisions in the military every day. So forget it. He needs to grew up and learn.
“Reasonable offer” >> $12k minus any expenses and cost for “damage control” for breach of contract by the baby woss PS. (Backed up with documentation) or the difference of LDD selling the boat and his losses/gains due to contract breach.
PS… Think about what you might gain or loose. Quit asking help on OSO, how much to settle, etc. it’s your choice. You walk away anything over $6K, consider yourself lucky.
LDD !!! Work to get this settled. AND SHUT YOUR MOUTH WITH ALL THE BS COMMENTS.!!! GGGIIIEEESSSHHH.
OK. no one likes LDD. Fine. Don’t deal with him. Ignore him. Most of you have no clue about contracts, life and reality. Just a bunch of internet chit heads hiding behind a screen.
Nordic. !!! you can be in so much legal trouble… I would hide until this blows over.
OSO / IB. !!! Ditto.. This thread is totally against your licensing in “public media” it’s not even funny.
Anyone else can say what ever they want about the above. I won’t be reading it or commenting on it anyways, and I just want to go back reading about boats. I have spoken. (and on the light side, this is more typing that I have done in the last decade).. GGGRRRRRRRRRrrrr

I'll bet that this thread alone gives OSO an alexa spike.

Im not taking a position here but rather just letting you know that this and another more SERIOUS site with forums have ruined peoples businesses, lifetstyles and even put some peeps in jail.....

This group is unlike any other dude

well we can see from your whole 6 posts that you really have a finger on whats happening on this site

That wasn't a good tone Offshoreperson. Calling people internet chitheads?

No. That just won't do.

And as far as "liable"? Most people are not "Liable" for "libel" as they offered little more than opinion (that he is an ass) on an opinion forum.
No judge in the world would review the evidence that the people on this forum had to go by and rule that LDD is not an ass.

Defamation is a tough hill to climb against the truth.

Great Post!...

Which one of your buddies posted this for you Donger?

I thought it was you, masher, or delson....:eek:

Im staying out of this mess:party-smiley-004:

Count as of 11/25/09

Prostock-3812

LDD-1

it never ceases to amaze me how misinformed some people are about the law....but it is certainly fun to read at times.....I have no opinion here because I am not aware of all the facts, despite what someone may claim are "all the facts".....but as a trial lawyer who litigates these types of agreements on a daily basis.........and a marine business owner that deals with these types of agreements on a daily basis.......I can only caution the parties that, in law, issues are rarely "clearly black or white"........there are many legal principles that affect an agreement that are outside the agreement itself.......if either party here is being counseled that they have a slam dunk case, well then, I would suggest you get a second opinion.... but the only way either party is going to win here, in court, is if there is an attorneys' fees provision in the contract allowing the "prevailing party" to also receive his attorneys' fees and costs.....otherwise, you both lose by going to court, because litigation costs and attorneys fees to fully litigate this matter will greatly exceed the relative value of what the parties are fighting over........good luck in getting this resolved.........

Now theres a first:grinser010:

Steve you forgot to sign it :party-smiley-004:

I would love to hear the testimony in court on how a guy on the internet named Long Duck Dong was libeled,

Good point Donz.. I did try to get this across to both in a post and their PM.. I hope they read this as well as my PM and think about a resolution.

who is offshoreonIy and when did you sp. only with a I

what a tool!

Mikes280, my guess would be that the name OSO spelled correctly is already taken so he changed a letter to make it look like OSO.

offshoreonIy, you better do some more research, because multiple courts have already ruled that internet boards are not responsable for what the posters say. So IB is not going to be sued for anything.

for all the internet lawyers, you are all just guessing on the contract being legal or not. every states laws are different, so what is legal in Alabama is not always legal in some other state. If you are an Alabama lawyer that deals in contracts than you would most likely know the answer. If you are not one, than you don't know and should stop guessing. As someone said, the law is not always black and white.

just because most of us believe that ldd should give the money back, doesn't mean that Alabama law says so, and right or wrong, that is really all that matters. If ldd gave back all the money right now, nothing would change as far as how any of you feel about him, so what reason does he have to give it back? His reputation is mud, and its going to stay that way if he gives nothing, or if he gave the whole $14K back. As far as screwing up his life, legit crooks like National Marine and Trick Marine are still running around out there, and they both took far more than 14,000. I have never seen either of them taken to court yet. Somewhere it says that ldd has offered PS
some money. PS says that he wants to pay all the lawyer bills. What ever amount ldd is offering is probably more money than PS is going to get than if this goes to court. and he would get it a lot sooner. this could be in court for a long long time.

prostock is far from the "innocent" buyer here. he signed a stupid contract, and then waited months to say anything about it. being in his late 20's makes him far more than a "kid" as some of you have called him. The fact that he "trusted" the seller has nothing to do with being stupid and sending that much money sight unseen to someone that he only knew from the internet.

Everytime ldd posts, dozens of people add to this thread, which is like pouring gas on a fire. If you ignore his posts, he will stop posting. Right now, if no lawyers are involved, than ldd and PS should be the only ones talking, in private. If lawyers are involved, than they should be doing all the talking.

Good gawd. this is a goat rodeo!

LDD is being an azz no doubt. But now Prostock is making the same empty ""give you to the end of the day" threat he gave weeks ago.
I'm not sure which is worse.

Prostock, wake up and man up! chit or get off the pot!
Get a lawyer and get your money back or drop it and move on.

Notice the low post count of the only ones on this thread who stuck up for ding dong.

offshore - 6 posts

msd - 4 posts

Smells a little fishy wouldn't you say?

In the first place, what does my post count have to do with anything?

In the 2nd place, I have been a member of OSO for more than 2 years. Its not like I just registered to post on this thread

and most important, which post of mine did you read where I stuck up for ldd? I didn't stick up for anyone.

I think they both made stupid decisions!

I am now dumber, having read this entire thread. This is the boat business! You don't give money for a boat sight-unseen! I'm 31 and have been around this business since I was 18 and even then, I wouldn't give money for a boat sight-unseen. Even so, the seller not informing you on the final day of the contract, that the contract is about to expire and asking you what you want do is a shi$$y way to do business. I, personally, always outline with the person, that I am doing business with, what will happen if payment is not received in a timely manner. But, then again, I have integrity and a name to uphold.

I understand that things come up and sometimes a deal may be a few weeks late. But, if you can't get away from work or other personal issues to take care of your $14,000 deal, how much did you really care about the deal? You really should have checked this guy out a little closer and handle the deal face-to-face. Its the best way to do business. I and a buddy of mine was involved in a deal with Fred Cecil in 2002 on a 28 Pantera. He came up from SC, looked the boat over, haggled a little, paid for the boat, and hauled it home. Two weeks later, he calls me and says he blew a drive and wants us to send him another one. After some fighting about it, we send him another bravo drive. The boat was sold as is. A month goes by and he calls again saying he blew another drive. He called me everything but a white man on this board during both incidents. Against better judgment, we send another drive. My buddy and I didn't want the bad press. I called Fred and asked him to send me the blown drives back so that I could get them redone. He told me to get FUCT! I made a big stink about it here on OSO but, he was well liked here at the time. Point is, most of the time, its cheaper and easier to take it on the chin than fight the battle of getting your integrity back. You just never know how things will turn out.

dumb dumb duck can't be banned from this site soon enough. He's already shown his colors and belongs on top of the OSO wall of shame. It's a easy vote to rid this community of a obvious snake in the grass.

WOW, LDD is so damn cocky at this point that even though he is 110% slimeball he has gotten ballzy due to all the empty threats both legal or other.

ProS you have to step up and make a move, this POS is not going to wake up one morning and grow principles and send your money. He is actually getting pumped up by being the bad guy. He has flat out stated he is getting off on stirring everyone up.

Stand up for yourself bro.

LDD I would not get to brave, you keep egging everyone on and somebody that may not even have nothing to do with this situation at all may just decide to make an example of you and put their foot in your ass, or worse. Don't gloat over being a get over sc*m bag, it may bite you back hard financially or other.

LDD I would not get to brave, you keep egging everyone on and somebody that may not even have nothing to do with this situation at all may just decide to make an example of you and put their foot in your ass, or worse. Don't gloat over being a get over sc*m bag, it may bite you back hard financially or other.[/QUOTE]

One can only hope!.....I believe in karma and have experienced it on the positive side. It is not enough just to believe in the Lord; gratitude is an action word.
Patience and Faith.....but get off your butt, Prostock, and apply some pressure.

Just a couple of questions, about the contract. Maybe in Alabama, the law is different than most states. Where are witness' signatures and where are notary/notaries' signature/signatures and stamp/stamps.

show's lack of integrity, morals...on a downhill spiral...very sad

What Jeff said is absolutly correct


Happy Thanksgiving Jeff

lose=to not win
loose=not tight

wtf!!!

ProStock, make your next move. Let's get this thing straightened out. Unfortunately a lawyer looks like the only way to get this resolved. Get tough or get over it. Best of luck to you.

Im blown away by this statement!

A site like this isnt just a random chatroom. I couldnt even begin to imagine how many people I have met in person that I wouldnt have otherwise if not for the forums.

ProStock, you have rosted duck for dinnner...... :p


HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE :drink:

Ditto to you and yours.

88% say's bye bye duck, Crawl back under your rock.

With all the threads on OSO being poofed it amazes me that this one has not been deleted or moved to one of the other forums.

What is the word on this? Or does Sy have it all under control :D

We are working on it.......To be continued.....


Nordic95

Or does Sy have it all under control :grinser010:

trust me, that is NOT steve or anyone involved with OSO..