It's after 3. I had to stay up and call some people in Florida. Now I'm waiting to call some ole boy in Oregon. After that I gotta catch a train back to Yokohama so I can get get a shower couple hours of sleep before the marina opens so I can get into the shop and get some work done. I ain't worried about posting my # these conspiracy nuts either are too poor or scared to call. :drink:

You've got quite an imagination LDD.

Nah you just can't get it through your thick skull that I ain't the Donger.:drink:

Keep posting your phone number you gay flamer maybe you'll find a date soon.

Fire, in a complete unbias way, answer this. What would you do in my situation??? What do you think is right? In both our shoes (ldd and mine). You seem rather intelligent, I look forward to your reply.

I would not waste my time talking to this guy. If he is not DONG he is just another used car lot guy ripping people off and uses the same contract form to make sales. Anybody that thinks what DONG did is the proper way to conduct business is suspect themselves.

Im interested too....

Listen, snakes hide under rocks and most often times, more then one. Do not allow yourself to become prey again. Do not be so naive.
Your NOT dealing with any form of integrity when you deal with snakes.
The best thing we can all wish for here is that you get your inheritence back, and that a man rather then a snake raises his kids. His x-wife was smart enough to figure out what she was dealing with. When will you?

If you're all so sure 29Firefox is LDD then couldn't someone search his IP address and figure out if he's really on the other side of the world or not? Wouldn't that be easier than speculating and name calling?


Never mind, we need the drama.


Carry on.......

Thanks,,,,,,but this is not about spelling !

Its about understanding !!!!!!

They way it reads its about the Deposit not the $ recived.

Because if he would not get the second payment by that date the money recived(2ooo)is not refundable!!!!!!!

Just to get things in writing, does not mean its correct infront of the law!!!!!!!!!

Whatever happened to the guys on the truck forum?... is he making things right?

http://forum.ih8mud.com/merchandise-...ed-time-5.html

Firefox,
I think the bigger issue in this thread is not the contract, it is where peoples morals are these days. LDD should know keeping all that money is not right and if he doesnt than he is a damaged human being.

I agree! It seems like he would do anything to screw someone over. My dad was like that. He died a lonely old man

The more arguments you win, the less friends you have.

very true

LOL....The last picture of his mugshot should read "would you buy a used car off this man"

The morals are out the window just look at our government leaders They set the tone for us and they all are stealing money from us and using it to fund there lifestyle not to save Americas lifestyle

This guy (LLD) is just one more in the many that continues to dumb down our country

The litigation will start and the only ones walking away with money is the lowest form of moral corruption (lawyers)

Thank You!!!!:ernaehrung004: Its the truth the whole truth and nothing but.:ernaehrung004:

Sounds like LDD could be our next governor or even fill that vacant Senate seat :eek:

IT TOOK ME A MONTH TO GET MY TITLE ..THEY KEPT SAYING TITLE IN MAIL ,BE AWARE

Terrible experience. Not as advertised, would not finish paperwork. Stay away!!! Buyer: misc_sales ( 347) Aug-05-08 18:23
Reply by extremeremarketing (Aug-05-08 19:23):
Asked me to change paperwork 3 times weeks after sale,then they lost it twice!!

took almost three weeks and several phone calls to get title Buyer: bartscott7gif ( 67) Jul-28-08 14:10
Reply by extremeremarketing (Jul-28-08 14:35):
Potential for Title Delays are CLEARLY stated in EVERY auction for this reason!

Only lasted 15 miles! Kept dep. & fees..BEWARE! Look at my score! BAD E-BAYER! Buyer: markieroro ( 27) Jul-21-08 12:25
Reply by extremeremarketing (Jul-21-08 12:58):
tried to extort money from us,CLEARLY STATED NO REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT,Learn To Read
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not correct odometer numbers Buyer: 1949ys ( 73) May-01-08 11:09
Reply by extremeremarketing (May-01-08 11:16):
CLEARLY stated TRUE MILES UNKNOWN,claims I misrepresented miles DIDNT PAY ME
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Indicated to seller I was out of the country left clear contact info.... Jerk! Buyer: healthimaging ( 11) Mar-27-08 08:09
Reply by extremeremarketing (Mar-27-08 08:45):
Guy didnt pay, Bid and then left country w/o paying? End result is he didnt pay!
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not as advertised, transmission dead, catalytic convertor bad, indicator lights Buyer: miles2gofolks4me2c ( 0 ) Mar-02-08 16:50
Reply by extremeremarketing (Mar-02-08 17:02):
item#180214749951,disclosed slipping transmission, she didnt even pay email me
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LDD gives used car dealers a bad name.

One problem with the Internet is that it gives people a tremendous head start on ripping people off. I've pretty much stopped looking at Craig's List and Ebay, although Ebay continues to be one of the best ways to deal. I try hard to support my local businesses and deal face to face now. If I have a problem, I know they're still around (mostly).

In a community like this and the many other boating communities online, I find it amazing that scumbuckets doing business and ripping people off are at the same time supported by many members. That is, until the hammer drops and the final verdict is in. It's only continued threads like this that the scumbuckets are weeded out. The sad part is when forums pull threads because they think it might hurt their coveted advertiser's business, or maybe they're even personal friends.

Well said. In the end the only winners will be the lawyers.

I would've rolled up in person flashed the cash and haggled over the dock rash. Had I have signed the contract (Not a snowball's chance in Key West) and later found out about the dock rash I would've completed the contract on time got the boat then take the Donger to small claims over the dock rash. It would've been a slam dunk with the web adds not showing the damage. Problem is if the small claims max award would've covered the damage or not. But it would've been a no lawyers fees involved $5000 in your pocket. The term no one here has hit on is "betterment" if you end up in court the judge is gonna rule so that neither party gets betterment over the other. The Donger stands up and says "I gotta signed contract and he failed to comply. I latter sold the boat at a loss." You can throw out all the arguments that everyone here has suggested and basically the judge is gonna look at it and pick out the fact that you paid $14k and didn't get anything. The judge is also gonna take into account your actions involving "contractual responsibilities". If the judge gives you all your money back it gives you betterment over the Donger. Doing so would leave the door open for the Donger to sue you for his losses. The judge is going to rule in a way to shut down all the litigation. If the judge lets the Donger keep all the money then the Donger gets betterment over you because he ends up with more money than the original deal. The judge is gonna have the Donger fess up proof of the latter sale and add that to the amount of the retained funds subtract the original agreed upon sale price and rule against the Donger in that amount. No betterment on either side (even though it seems not so) case closed. At this point in time if the Donger offers anything more than the difference take it and run at least it will go in your pocket and not some lawyer's. He might want you to sign a "hold harmless agreement" before he forks over the refund. If so, make sure it goes both ways and protects you too.:drink:

The amount LDD sold the boat for to a party after his dealings with Prostock has no bearing on the monies Prostock will receive back from LDD for their supposed transaction.

That was LDD's choice to sell it to someone else for less.

It's called "Karma" and Karma is a bi tch :drink:

Ya hit the nail dead smack on the head:drink:

Your still missing the point. The Donger can claim that he was damaged by the fact that Pro failed to comply with his "contractual responsibilities" and the "damage" would be the difference between the agreed upon price and the actual sale price. You can say it isn't so a million times but that fact isn't going to go away. But!!! by not refunding the difference the Donger has damaged Pro. So the remedy is to have Donger give Pro back the difference. It's a screwed up ending but when stuff like this happens in life the remedy is usually as screwed up as the situation.:drink:

[QUOTE=29Firefox;2757255]I would've rolled up in person flashed the cash and haggled over the dock rash.

Now thats how to ROLL .:ernaehrung004:

Stand up wind and let em get a wiff of that wad of C notes. When they start sweating it's time to start haggling. When ya want put a hurt on em start to leave with the money:drink:

does the fact that LDD damaged the boat and didnt tell prostock about it AT ALL mean anything. After prostock sent the money he had to read on a boat forum about the new undisclosed damages?

Firefox, now you are talking some sense. I agree that the cheaper route for the both of them would be to work something out. I think both parties here realize that there will be a split and chances are the lawyers will get that split. I hope that LDD can make an offer that is fair to the both of them.

LONG DUCK DONG needs to see a behavior psychiatrist or go to the police station go get his azz smacked and go to jail for whatever chit he was doing....

it's your choice LDD.

At this time there is obviously a lot of opinions going around. Most (now myself included) this I'm an idiot for signing it. There is no doubt I had faults in this situation, but I don't believe they were worth 14K though.

I could do what others including Firefox stated, paid up then sued over damages in small claims court. There are a few problems with the suing after the fact. For one, I would have to fight in Alabama, which makes it very difficult for my travels, especially when the other party just has to call out to have it postponed last minute (wasted trip). And second, if I were to win, Alabama has a maximum $3000 payout (rumored). I never thought waiting till I went there in person would have turned into this..

Been there, done that...NO Winners
 

Most, if not all of that post is incorrect. Possibly small claims court has a max of $3k, but even for small claims, that seems low. Your case would not be a small claims; you need to get a saavy attorney and get moving.
If he doesn't show up for a disposition, arbitration or scheduled hearing/court date, it would not help his case; in fact it could severly damage his case. Just call an atty.and discuss the case in full.
In the end, you both lose and attorneys make some coin.
I've been through a few lawsuits on both sides in biz deals. The last one the other party lost 70k, I lost six figures, and the trustee, lawyers, accountants and auctioneers ALL made $$big money$$! Money from sale of assets that my business(& me personally) created/built.......Settle it out; or u both lose, period.

all law and court business a side. It is just a bad thing. To take advantage of this deal like he did. He trusted and got burnt.

Here is the deal on when I bought my boat. I now know it was stupid but it turned out good and I trusted and the other person was true to his word. Bought the boat signed over my one Harley and made the first payment before I ever saw the boat in person. The only thing that wasn't there was the bimni top. I am a very trusting person because I am a man of my word and would like to think that most are also. This just shows you and taught me that I needed to change my ways

I and I assume many other were under the impression that you had already secured legal counsel and were in process of coming after me? Appearantly this is more smoke and mirrors as to whats going on....None the less had you followed through with your contract you claim you'd have to sue me in Alabama for the damages you claim were undisclosed (dock rash). The fact is NOW you still have to sue me Alabama, so whats the difference if you would have followed the contract?....NONE....


All bogus and bullsh*t assuptions aside.....I KEPT MY WORD! I did EXACTLY what I said I was going to do on the contract you idiot's....Its in writing, what part of that cant you dumb mother f*ckers read? Deadline wasnt met, no phone call or email for 2 1/2 days to make other arrangements on Saturday or Sunday....he defaulted.....you may not like it, may not agree with it, but facts are facts.....I made an offer to refund the difference, made an offer for additional money, he declined my offer.....

A LOT of time has past, still a little huff and puff but no action, just all talk!

Now you posted this not too long ago, claiming things were full steam ahead.....

A few days later you post this, not knowing what the Alabama limit was for suit?.....Couldnt your Alabama Attorney advise you of this so it wouldnt be "Rumored"?.....

What happend to your free Alabama attorney that THE JOKE claims is a member of this board that I pissed off?.....

My advise is quit relying on a bunch of windbags who think they know, but have no idea.....

I figured I would weigh in here...

LDD is a dooche bag

You still just don't get it. I think it was said best when someone called you a damaged human being.