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Powerplay25 11-13-2008 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by LubeJobs42 (Post 2739226)
I think it's all personal preference. Definitely debateable!

I second that!!!!

1waterboy1 11-13-2008 10:13 PM

Yeah those girls are hot...but arent we talking about watching high performance boats race or poker run.
I still think that offshore powerboat racing has the potential to be a very popular motorsport.

Cash Bar 11-13-2008 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by jayboat (Post 2739147)
I see checkered flags in your future. :doggy:

All I see is a CHECKERED PAST in his future. :evilb:

LubeJobs42 11-13-2008 10:35 PM

I have been receiving email after email regarding this situation. Story after story of JC's way of dealing with others in the same fashion I was. I had 5 people suggest I forward this thread to Key West officials, the Mayor and the Conch Board of Directors to let them know how JC's dictatorship has hurt the attendance of race week in Key West year after year. Maybe if the Key West officials realised this they may open up the Annex to other organisations that could really do a good job. I couldn't understand why the other organizations decided to hold their "worlds" in north Florida rather then Key West. Now I see, it's probably because they can't deal with carbonell.
I had an idea, what if we came up with a professional letter "obviously NOT written by me"! and a petition that the Annex should be opened up to other groups that are more willing to work with others that will help our sport. We may have a chance of making a change.
remember years ago? When you would go to the Worlds and there were 120+ boats with thousands of spectators! Maybe we can have that again! Any thoughts??

Cash Bar 11-13-2008 10:37 PM

I raced at the JOINT Worlds in '04. It was the greatest racing I have ever been around.

It was also my LAST race.

The dysfunctional personalities drove me away from the fractured sport.

I still have great friends that race, I just couldn't be a part of what it has become.

BattleCry 11-13-2008 11:26 PM

Last year, when we went to Key West, we needed race fuel. I asked an official if it was ok if I went over to the fuel truck and got fuel. It was going into a 300 gallon tank in the back of the truck. We needed race fuel and only had about 15 gallons in the boat. The officials were rude and we were in a bind so I was unable to express my true feelings. Carbonell was beyond being a tool. A special thanks to Dave Branch and Dave Woods we got it accomplished.

Gino,
Something, that you posted, that Carbonell said has me intrigued. I'm curious. What is John Carbonell's problem with Stu Jones and his FPC poker runs??? That's my QUESTION?

boater31v 11-13-2008 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by 1waterboy1 (Post 2739173)
No offense...but there is no comparison to watching racing as opposed to poker runs.Yeah the current state of offshore racing needs some major improvements;but racing is still racing.

None taken. I just mean that right now I would go to Key West to watch the poker run boats in the harbor and around the docks if the race boats weren't there. I would not go if the poker run boats weren't in town; not enough boats for me to spend the money to travel all that way. At this time, the poker run boats make the week for me. I do still love to watch the races since I am there.

WILDMAN 11-14-2008 01:12 AM

I'll bet he kicked you out of the pits because Reggie told him to. Reggie probably did not want your boat there for obvious reasons. I think those two are so far up each other's a$$es it's not funny.

BINGO!!!

F1-00 Racing 11-14-2008 02:22 AM


Originally Posted by BattleCry (Post 2739267)
Gino,
Something, that you posted, that Carbonell said has me intrigued. I'm curious. What is John Carbonell's problem with Stu Jones and his FPC poker runs??? That's my QUESTION?

I could obviously be wrong, but in 06 I believe FPC and SBI/APBA had a contract of some sort to sort of combine the races and the poker run together(in KW) which would have brought at least 50 PR boats into the pits and something like 3 showed up in the pits and 10 showed up to do parade laps b4 the races. As I stated above I dont know the specifics of the contract nor is it any of my business, I just remember a press release from SBI stating such to that effect.

Another disclaimer is that I have no dog in the fight and in reading Gino's post I find the situation apaulling, but over the years I've learned(usualy the hard way) that whether I like it or not, JC runs his business his way and when the Bubba bashing starts on here he will never respond and explain, but keeps doing what he does and has done for 30 some odd years, producing races. I know in both of my businesses I have done it my way and no matter how hard I tryed, I could never keep everyone happy.

I know it has been staightened out on here, but I must reiterate that Richard/Pat Deitrich(Race Control) are two of the most wonderful people in the world, Richie Dancision is not only firm but fair, but also is a class act; and the whole Medical staff is a pleasure to be around and all of the above made my time in the past as a racer some of the best memories in recent years.

Trent

Club Drew 11-14-2008 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by F1-00 Racing (Post 2739287)
I could obviously be wrong, but in 06 I believe FPC and SBI/APBA had a contract of some sort to sort of combine the races and the poker run together(in KW) which would have brought at least 50 PR boats into the pits and something like 3 showed up in the pits and 10 showed up to do parade laps b4 the races. As I stated above I dont know the specifics of the contract nor is it any of my business, I just remember a press release from SBI stating such to that effect.

Another disclaimer is that I have no dog in the fight and in reading Gino's post I find the situation apaulling, but over the years I've learned(usualy the hard way) that whether I like it or not, JC runs his business his way and when the Bubba bashing starts on here he will never respond and explain, but keeps doing what he does and has done for 30 some odd years, producing races. I know in both of my businesses I have done it my way and no matter how hard I tryed, I could never keep everyone happy.

I know it has been staightened out on here, but I must reiterate that Richard/Pat Deitrich(Race Control) are two of the most wonderful people in the world, Richie Dancision is not only firm but fair, but also is a class act; and the whole Medical staff is a pleasure to be around and all of the above made my time in the past as a racer some of the best memories in recent years.

Trent

Yup like the song my way:drink:If you pop up at a race and someone tells you we need your boat for a parade my answer whould be let me speak to the boss AKA JC:rolleyes:


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