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Old 11-14-2008, 04:05 PM
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Wow! You are kidding....right?? The races have been around LONG before poker runs were invented and they will be in Key West long after the poker runners go for a different weekend.
Speaking of who's been around longer, how long has Carbonell been doing this? 20? 30 years? How about the other players? A lot of people have come and gone but J. C. is still doing his thing and exactly the way he wants to do it.
No I wasnt kidding, how many boats were there this year??? I understand the count was awy down.
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Well said Randy.
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No I wasnt kidding, how many boats were there this year??? I understand the count was awy down.
It's all driven by the economy.
Race boats & pleasure boats run on play money. When play money tightens up, boating use goes down.
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Race teams need fans!!! PR teams dont need fans! Both love the same things (cool fast boats). If I were a race promoter and knowing I need fans to support my teams I would think the perfect place to start would be PR people. I would work with them any way I could to get the PR people to share and participate in my event. We should do joint events with vendors,manufactures and media. If an event had 50 race teams and 100 PR teams and we all hung together in the same location it would be off the hook fun. Its not all about the 1-hour race, its about the weekend together with more friends with parades,contest,street party's and putting on value to the towns we visit. We need to close this gap and realize we all think the same way and not "them and us" Think in terms of Havasu this last year.
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Race teams need fans!!! PR teams dont need fans! Both love the same things (cool fast boats). If I were a race promoter and knowing I need fans to support my teams I would think the perfect place to start would be PR people. I would work with them any way I could to get the PR people to share and participate in my event. We should do joint events with vendors,manufactures and media. If an event had 50 race teams and 100 PR teams and we all hung together in the same location it would be off the hook fun. Its not all about the 1-hour race, its about the weekend together with more friends with parades,contest,street party's and putting on value to the towns we visit. We need to close this gap and realize we all think the same way and not "them and us" Think in terms of Havasu this last year.
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Speaking of who's been around longer, how long has Carbonell been doing this? 20? 30 years? How about the other players? A lot of people have come and gone but J. C. is still doing his thing and exactly the way he wants to do it.
Just because he has been doing it for 20-30 years, and doing it his way, doesnt mean its the right way??

GM has been making cars for a lot longer than toyota, but GM is not doing so well right now, are they??

I think if he listened to others, and opened up a bit to the other orgs. it would be better for everyone in the long run, fans especially, and thats what we are talking about here isnt it??
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Race teams need fans!!! PR teams dont need fans! Both love the same things (cool fast boats). If I were a race promoter and knowing I need fans to support my teams I would think the perfect place to start would be PR people. I would work with them any way I could to get the PR people to share and participate in my event. We should do joint events with vendors,manufactures and media. If an event had 50 race teams and 100 PR teams and we all hung together in the same location it would be off the hook fun. Its not all about the 1-hour race, its about the weekend together with more friends with parades,contest,street party's and putting on value to the towns we visit. We need to close this gap and realize we all think the same way and not "them and us" Think in terms of Havasu this last year.
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Amen brutha Randy Havasu was great! although next time i am doing some late night last minute repairs to an SVL please . . . stay in the hottub . . .
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This was not something that was told to anyone until we were already in Key West and it was because of SBI's low turn out. The problem is everyone that came down on the Poker run, drove their boat to Key West. The trailers were left in Miami. Very few people had their trailers brought down.
Understand totally Gino, just responding to someone's question concerning why the rift between JC and Stu, I only brought up a possibility of the reasoning.

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Dont want anything, just knowing that he is the first and only member of my fan club means the world to me

Rick,
As you have told me time and time again, "It is what it is" then again thats why we're car racing instead in 09

gonna join Pat on the outside looking in, best to you guys and hope you get things resolved Gino!

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Understand totally Gino, just responding to someone's question concerning why the rift between JC and Stu, I only brought up a possibility of the reasoning.

Pat,
Dont want anything, just knowing that he is the first and only member of my fan club means the world to me

Rick,
As you have told me time and time again, "It is what it is" then again thats why we're car racing instead in 09

gonna join Pat on the outside looking in, best to you guys and hope you get things resolved Gino!

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tell me about this car racing thing, I am there for ya if ya need me, boats are more fun for pleasure anyway

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Just because he has been doing it for 20-30 years, and doing it his way, doesnt mean its the right way??
GM has been making cars for a lot longer than toyota, but GM is not doing so well right now, are they??
I think if he listened to others, and opened up a bit to the other orgs. it would be better for everyone in the long run, fans especially, and thats what we are talking about here isnt it??
1. Never said it is the "right way", I just said he has been doing it a very long time & people still race with him.
2. Right! If people weren't worried about their money right now they would be buying more cars. Toyota announced the biggest losses in their history as well.....
3. I agree completely!

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