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robyw1 11-20-2008 05:31 PM

Towing 29' Scarab
 
Would towing a 29' Scarab be too much weight for a 2005 1/2-ton Suburban w/ 5.3 V8?

Thanks
Roby

prostock85 11-20-2008 05:34 PM

Single or twin. Steel or aluminum trailer? I think the 5.3 burbs are rated for 6800lbs

robyw1 11-20-2008 05:36 PM

Sorry for the lack of detail, this would be twin 350mags with an Aluminum trailer. It might have 2 or 3 axles.

hunster 11-20-2008 05:39 PM

You'll be at the limit. Should be ok , my rig is 7000# , twin 29 alum tandem trailer. My 2500 hd dosen't know it's there. Used to haul it with an expedition rated @ 6800 max.

prostock85 11-20-2008 05:45 PM

forgot to mention, 2wd vs 4wd matters and also gear ratio...

As comparison my 27 fever (29' loa) with t/bbc on a dual axle (8 lug) steel trailer weighs 9860# with 1/2 tank and gear.

hunster 11-20-2008 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by prostock85 (Post 2743980)
forgot to mention, 2wd vs 4wd matters and also gear ratio...

As comparison my 27 fever (29' loa) with t/bbc on a dual axle (8 lug) steel trailer weighs 9860# with 1/2 tank and gear.

Whats up with that? you have like a 5000# trailer? The book says the 27 weight is 4800# and the 29 is 5500#

spilman 11-20-2008 08:32 PM

A 27 fever that is 29' long???huh A 32 fever is 27'-9"; I'm not sure if the older fountains were longer??

btw, what does that twin bb look like in the water? Does it porpoise at speed?

prostock85 11-20-2008 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by spilman (Post 2744102)
A 27 fever that is 29' long???huh A 32 fever is 27'-9"; I'm not sure if the older fountains were longer??

btw, what does that twin bb look like in the water? Does it porpoise at speed?

Didn't mean to hi-jack

Back in the day, fountain did not include the swim platform in measurement, So my 27 Fever is indeed 29 ft..... subtract the beak and its probably a 26-27 again....

It has yet to porpoise...its not that fast, it only has 330's.... It sits deep in the water, pics below

As for the weight of the rig.... I weighed my truck, came in at 4680, and then brought the truck/trailer and boat to the same scale an hour later.. weighed in at 14540, therefor making trailer/boat combo come in at 9860.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...ain/motors.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...ntain/day1.jpg

LaughingCat 11-20-2008 09:01 PM

In April, I bought a 30' Scarab Sport, twin 300s. Hauled it from Alabama to Tampa behind a Lincoln Navagator with a triple axle trailer. Boat barely fit on the trailer.

Nav pulled fine up to about 70mph, then the wandering started. If you tow at or beyond maximum capacity, keep the speed down.

BAJA WILL 11-21-2008 08:21 AM

Should be OK, but again a golf cart can pull 8000lbs its stopping it is the problem. Check your trailer tires and trailer brakes, do a couple of controlled hard stops to make sure it all works.

BTW, STRAP IT DOWN, cost you $40 for some good wratchet straps from walmart.

WILL:ernaehrung004:

Quinlan 11-21-2008 08:28 AM

Had a friend pulling a 272 baja it was only a single with a 2500hd chevy came up on a stop to fast no brakes on trailer jack-knifed and slid across 4 lanes of traffic!! No one hit him unbeleivable they didnt!!!
So pulling some twins with a 1500 all I can say is GOOD LUCK during the emergency stopping!!

TexomaPowerboater 11-21-2008 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by spilman (Post 2744102)
A 27 fever that is 29' long???huh A 32 fever is 27'-9"; I'm not sure if the older fountains were longer??

btw, what does that twin bb look like in the water? Does it porpoise at speed?

Why cut down the guys boat when all he was trying to do was help the guy out? AT's aren't perfect either.

I do think his weight is off. Mine doesn't weigh any more than 9000lbs full of fuel, including the trailer. When his boat was made they didn't count the swim platform in the length.

I think the suburban would be maxed out. Loaded full of people - probobly over capacity.

Sydwayz 11-21-2008 08:45 AM

WAY over what you want to tow with a 1/2 ton Suburban. Check the first post in the truck/trailer section, and you can find out your exact capacity.

The biggest pitfall is the coil-spring rear suspension in that Suburban. It's the equivalent of a Chevy Cavalier with stiffer springs. One bad hop from the heavy tail end of that twin engine boat, and the back of that Sub is going to be all over the place; and the coil-springs are going to rebound back and forth and front and back, until you are upside down. Top that off with all your passengers, and your in truck cargo, which is already on the rear axle, and also now in peril.

Don't do it.

The most you want to tow with ANY 1/2 ton SUV is about 7500 lbs, which is an average 25-28 foot single engine boat.

26sxl 11-21-2008 01:13 PM

Robyw1, I Pull my sea ray with my yukonxl 1500(has autoride though) across no. mich. 2-3 times a summerand pulls and handles just fine. Wouldn't want to haul much bigger though...

fund razor 11-21-2008 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2744310)
Why cut down the guys boat when all he was trying to do was help the guy out? AT's aren't perfect either.

He was asking how a 27 foot Fountain is 29 feet. His question was answered. He was not cutting Prostock down. In fact, Prostock is currently enjoying quite a bit of support around here. You?
ATs have nothing to do with it either. That was you trying to poke his boat because you perceived that he poked another's.
Not sure that Prostock needed your protection, Nancy.

26sxl 11-21-2008 01:21 PM

Robyw1,sorry,and by the way , would I want to haul it to Fla. from here with my yukonxl or any real long dist. trip....NO.....

tssteph 11-21-2008 01:25 PM

I towed my 29 scarab with twins and a steel trailer once with a half ton extended cab chev with the 5.3. I had brakes on all thre axels on the trailer. It was more then the truck wanted. It will work on flat ground but I would not do it long term. I upgraded to a 6.0 liter chev 3/4 ton and it did fine.

TexomaPowerboater 11-21-2008 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by fund razor (Post 2744534)
He was asking how a 27 foot Fountain is 29 feet. His question was answered. He was not cutting Prostock down. In fact, Prostock is currently enjoying quite a bit of support around here. You?
ATs have nothing to do with it either. That was you trying to poke his boat because you perceived that he poked another's.
Not sure that Prostock needed your protection, Nancy.

Is it fun sitting on the shore? For a moderator on SOS you sure do spend A LOT of time here.

MidnightRider 11-21-2008 01:41 PM

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Maybe "Pocket Change" and myself shouldn't have been using my Expedition to pull our 42 triple Fountains around? :eek:
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fund razor 11-21-2008 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2744550)
Is it fun sitting on the shore? For a moderator on SOS you sure do spend A LOT of time here.

You, as usual.... have no clue about what is going on and who is who. Nancy.

Racerngr1 11-22-2008 11:25 AM

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e.../MyBoat003.jpg

I did this for a while, back and forth to Havasu from so cal and it wasn't so bad. Was the weight technically more then recommended, probably, but it got the job done, which I believe is what you are asking. I do have a 2500 Silverado now. Hope this helps.

LaughingCat 11-22-2008 07:29 PM

please dont tell me a jap-truck can pull this better than an us truck. been too many tacoma commercials for my stomach to handle.

BUIZILLA 11-22-2008 07:35 PM

A Tacoma won't...

but a 381hp/403tq Tundra with 4.30 gears will tow it's ass off alllll day long...


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