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olli 11-29-2008 08:59 AM

Early single step Cigarettes and Fountains
 
Were these early single step models just experiments before Cigarette went on with the TS and Fountain with a more sophisticated single Step (on the 35’Executioner) or were those designs also available to their ‘ordinary’ customers back then? How many were built and was there a notable difference in performance compared to the straight bottoms?
Two examples:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...0/cigst001.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...i5400/f001.jpg

dreamer 11-29-2008 09:24 AM

5 cigs built

losts of spins rolls!!

Jassman 11-29-2008 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by dreamer (Post 2749427)
5 cigs built

losts of spins rolls!!


Very, very true, also quality control on my 2000 ss TG was terrible..no factory support, and the scariest unpredictable riding boat Ive owned to date....Nothing like the quality products that come out of the Cig factory today...Jeff

I was told 6 were built to date with mine being hull #3.

Griff 11-29-2008 12:30 PM

The boat in the first pic spun, and I think ejected everybody and partially submerged,at LOTO while testing for the OSS races about 14 months ago. The boat is still at LOTO.

The single steps were modified from the straight bottom mold and didn't work well. The T/S Cigs are a new design.

I think the Single step Fountains are fine. Just not as fast. Fountain just brought them back as a lower priced boat a few years ago.

tanner 11-29-2008 12:43 PM

The reason the single step on the Cigs didn't work was the location of the step. You have to understand the footprint of your hull and where the high pressure and low pressure of the water hits on your hull... long story short the air was getting sucked in under the hull from the single step but it was so far forward that the pressure was still hitting the rear of the hull in the wrong place. They came with the twin step and the low/high pressure was balanced better. I can't help you with why fountain used the single step for so long on the 35's.

Jassman 11-29-2008 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by tanner (Post 2749537)
The reason the single step on the Cigs didn't work was the location of the step. You have to understand the footprint of your hull and where the high pressure and low pressure of the water hits on your hull... long story short the air was getting sucked in under the hull from the single step but it was so far forward that the pressure was still hitting the rear of the hull in the wrong place. They came with the twin step and the low/high pressure was balanced better. I can't help you with why fountain used the single step for so long on the 35's.

The only SS that I have been on that works and is proven is on the 37 A.T., that was designed by Harry Scholl.

OL40SVX 11-29-2008 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by Jassman (Post 2749552)
The only SS that I have been on that works and is proven is on the 37 A.T., that was designed by Harry Scholl.

37 Outerlimits as well.

J-Bonz 11-29-2008 02:26 PM

Rice Hauler owned the Roul Bousel thumprint boat

thisistank 11-29-2008 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by J-Bonz (Post 2749566)
Rice Hauler owned the Roul Bousel thumprint boat

Yep, and he has just as much negative input that's already been told here.

C5Steve 11-29-2008 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by fountain40icbm (Post 2749553)
37 Outerlimits as well.

Which was a cut down 40 hustler


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