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socalstone 12-04-2008 12:33 PM

Charging Dual Batteries...
 
I have dual batteries with a switch and two posts under the rear seat.
I want to hook up a battery tender for the winter.

Where do I connect it?

Not sure if the posts by the switch under the seat are direct to the batteries or just to power the hatch if batteries go dead. It's an 07 Baja Outlaw.

hunster 12-04-2008 01:30 PM

I take mine out. Keep them nice and warm in my garage with the tenders hooked up.

BrettM 12-04-2008 01:51 PM

Get a Guest 2611 10 amp 5 per bank onboard charger and forget about any battery problems!

Wobble 12-04-2008 03:27 PM

disconnect batteries and use a tender for each one or switch them around every two months

Break'inWind 12-04-2008 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by nebraskabaja (Post 2752667)
Get a Guest 2611 10 amp 5 per bank onboard charger and forget about any battery problems!

x2... didn't buy a Guest, but got a dual bank marine battery tender/charger. Plug it in, forget about it. Good to go on the next trip out.

Perlmudder 12-04-2008 11:14 PM

I always just take them out for the winter, put them somewhere warm. then in the spring put them both on a charger. they don't loose much charge if any just sitting for a couple months.

TexomaPowerboater 12-05-2008 08:33 AM

I use the batter tender. Probobly not the recommend way of doing it, but for the past 10 years I've always just hooked them straight up to the battery without disconnecting the battery from the boat. For twin batteries I use two battery tenders, thats it. I've done it with the sea ray since new (04) and on the 28 apache. No problems, and it doesn't seem to have any impact on the life of the battery. One time when the battery went dead the tender burned up (not literally) trying to charge it up. I try to keep the tender away from anything flammable. If the battery goes dead it will warm up a bit trying to keep it charged, but not enough to cause damage.

socalstone 12-05-2008 08:54 AM

Thanks guys. At the risk of sounding lazy..... I would like to leave the batteries in the boat if possible. Want it ready to rock and roll at all times.
There's no way to use one tender to charge both batteries simultaneously?

Joe92GT 12-05-2008 09:15 AM

The battery tenders are ok, but not the best.

The battery tenders float the battery at a voltage, in essence equalizing all of the cells low. So if some cells are lower than others, those cells can sulfate. If you do want to go the battery tender route, that is fine, however once a month you need to raise the voltage to equalize the cells. Put on a good charger for a few hours should do it.

The better charges mentioned should do it automatically, or there should be a button/contact on them to make them go into "boost".

All batteries will drain minimum 5% every month with nothing connected. All the battery tender does is equalize that drain, it is not a charger. By charger, I don't mean 10 dollar wallmart special. You really need to spend some cash on a high rated charger to keep your batteries in perfect condition. They do more than just charge. We sell battery charges in the power industry to generator OEM's.

ImaPoser 12-05-2008 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by socalstone (Post 2753187)
Thanks guys. At the risk of sounding lazy..... I would like to leave the batteries in the boat if possible. Want it ready to rock and roll at all times.
There's no way to use one tender to charge both batteries simultaneously?

Sure. Leave your switch in the both position and hook it up to either battery.

ImaPoser 12-05-2008 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by Joe92GT (Post 2753204)
All the battery tender does is equalize that drain, it is not a charger.

Then how is it when my tractor is dead, I hook up my motorcycles battery tender to it and come back and start it the next day?

Griff 12-05-2008 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by ImaPoser (Post 2753216)
Sure. Leave your switch in the both position and hook it up to either battery.

Yep, that will do it.

26sxl 12-05-2008 12:10 PM

I leave the batterys hooked up all winter with the switch OFF,then in the spring if one has any crank at all I will charge it and keep it for the summer. If one is completely bone dead,out it goes and in with a new one. I have done this for years and it works will for me.Never had battery problems in the summer,Just my two cents.......

TexomaPowerboater 12-05-2008 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by ImaPoser (Post 2753220)
Then how is it when my tractor is dead, I hook up my motorcycles battery tender to it and come back and start it the next day?

I scratched my head on that post too. The battery tender is all I use to charge.

Knot 4 Me 12-05-2008 01:04 PM

I used to pull my batteries every winter and storm them inside and trickle charge them a couple of times during layup. The last 4 years I have just left them in the boat, turned the battery switch to "Off", and let them sit all winter. In the spring I put them on a 2 amp charge for 12 hours (that is as long as the timer in my storage shed allows) and they are ready to go. I got 4 seasons and 210 hours on them (Interstate Marine Cranking). Plan to replace them this spring.

26sxl 12-05-2008 06:31 PM

:ernaehrung004:Knot 4 Me,,How do you go about STORMING them inside..LOL... I'm a interstate fan also,I have sold alot of them in the last 8 or so years and I can count on 1 hand the problems i've had with'em..

HotPursuit 12-05-2008 07:07 PM

Why not run your engines . If you dont relief valve spring pressure your hurting more than batteries. :eek:
I run mine at least once a week if I dont use it.I think it helps, nothing does well when sitting for a long period.
Just a different thought on total maintenance. :D

26sxl 12-05-2008 07:34 PM

Wish I had a 12 month boat season, I would run my boat REAL often. Its 12 degrees here right now..... BUR....

Joe92GT 12-05-2008 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by ImaPoser (Post 2753220)
Then how is it when my tractor is dead, I hook up my motorcycles battery tender to it and come back and start it the next day?

A battery is made up of multiple individual cells. A battery dies and is no longer good if one of a few things happens. First, a battery if left dead will allow sulfur to build up on the plates. This sulfur blocks the flow of electrons, thus the battery can not flow current in all, or parts of each cell. The second major problem is if you overcharge a battery. Overcharging forces the gases to expand too much and be released by the battery vents. Every bit of gas that escapes drops the amp hour capacity of the battery. So, overcharging is just as bad as undercharging. Those two failures fall under improper charging, and that is 95% of the reason for early failures. The other reasons batteries fail is internal structure failure.

To keep a battery properly charged in all the cells, the voltage needs to be brought up past the float voltage to 13.6v or 14.7 (depending on battery composition) for a period of time to bring every cell in the battery to a full high charge, and prevent sulfur build up. This should happen once a month. A battery tender will not do this. With just a battery tender, the cells will become unequal, and the low ones will start to form sulfur on the walls, diminishing your battery capacity and life.

What a battery tender does to is keep the battery floated at 12.6 volts, which is what a good charger does when it doesn't need to "boost" the battery. The other thing about batteries, is that the float voltage changes with temperature. We all know that a cold battery has less power than a warm one. A good battery charger will have temperature compensation built in, so as not to over charge the battery in the summer, and under charge in the winter.

I need to test a battery tender for what is called ripple. I am not sure how much it has, but imagine its pretty rough based on what it takes to keep ripple to a minimum. Ripple is what you get when you rectify AC voltage into DC poorly. Every time the 120v crosses 0, there is a spike in the output wave form of cheap chargers. If this spike is above the float voltage of the battery then over time the battery will out gas, and loose capacity.


So to sum up:

I do recommend battery tenders over nothing at all. I have them on all my small batteries. Just be sure to get a real charger on them once a month of so.

There is a reason for buying good chargers for boats or anything with a battery, its not just a waste of money.

jbraun2828 12-05-2008 07:48 PM

I use one tender for duel batteries and run jumper cables from one to the other


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