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mmareno 12-12-2008 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by DaveP (Post 2758407)
Complete Boats = Boat WITH motors, running and fully operational

SAMS = www.marinesurvey.org
NAMS = www.nams-cms.org (website is down for some reason?)

Thanks so much.. In 24 hours I have gotten so much info..



:Score-101010: Thanks Everyone!!

HotPursuit 12-12-2008 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by mmareno (Post 2758427)
Thanks so much.. In 24 hours I have gotten so much info..



:Score-101010: Thanks Everyone!!

Just to let you and Scott know in Louisiana any boat over 10 yrs old is considered tax excempt. I now Scott personally he is not the type of person looking to get over on someone. Lets face it in the used boat world someone has to trust someone. You made the offer and he took you up on it,thats smart business in my book.6K deposit on a 20k boat is a great deal,10-20% probably would have made the deal fly.
I have purchased boats from owners and builders,most bad apples float to the top.
I think holding the title and registration does mean you still own the boat and you have 6K to hold.Sell the boat and protect yourself in the bill of sale,you seem like a nice guy and Scott will come through. :ernaehrung004:

HotPursuit 12-12-2008 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by BraceYourself (Post 2757949)
Run for the hills.

Meaning do not finance yourself. Having the title won't mean **** when the **** hits the fan. Will take attorneys and all kinds of time. If the guy can't afford or finance the purchase how in the world is he going to afford everything that's needed to spend a day making no money out on the water.

Thats pretty sad personal attack on someone you dont even know.You could have recommened not to make the loan without bringing up the other bullSh*t.The ad read owner finance if I was to purchase it and let it sit in my back yard who gives a rats as*!!As long as the owner gets his balance my affording anything else is none of anyones business. Really you got people on here making comments that dont even have a membership.I guess they shouldn't own a boat either and we wonder why so many people are going to serious offshore. :eek:

DaveP 12-12-2008 10:52 PM


Originally Posted by HotPursuit (Post 2758492)
I think holding the title and registration does mean you still own the boat and you have 6K to hold.Sell the boat and protect yourself in the bill of sale,you seem like a nice guy and Scott will come through. :ernaehrung004:

And if the buyer puts the boat together and goes out and accidentally kills someone....the OWNER plus the BUYER are both on the hook.

Sorry but have to disagree with you on this one (in today's litigeous society)

HotPursuit 12-12-2008 11:57 PM


Originally Posted by DaveP (Post 2758509)
And if the buyer puts the boat together and goes out and accidentally kills someone....the OWNER plus the BUYER are both on the hook.

Sorry but have to disagree with you on this one (in today's litigeous society)

I agree, but even once its sold I have had buyers not transfer the paper work. You need a bill of sale thats stamp by a notary. I owner financed the sale of my last boat and had attorneys do all the paper work.
They claimed I was protected.He could always keep the drives till paid in full.

mmareno 12-13-2008 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by HotPursuit (Post 2758492)
Just to let you and Scott know in Louisiana any boat over 10 yrs old is considered tax excempt. I now Scott personally he is not the type of person looking to get over on someone. Lets face it in the used boat world someone has to trust someone. You made the offer and he took you up on it,thats smart business in my book.6K deposit on a 20k boat is a great deal,10-20% probably would have made the deal fly.
I have purchased boats from owners and builders,most bad apples float to the top.
I think holding the title and registration does mean you still own the boat and you have 6K to hold.Sell the boat and protect yourself in the bill of sale,you seem like a nice guy and Scott will come through. :ernaehrung004:

I do honestly trust the guy... I myself have never had a doubt that he would not pay for it.I talked to him several times and I talked to his wife... Thye both seem honest as the day is long...

I have a Friend that owns a Marina and Dealership.. for 70 years. He said NO way, your putting yourself at risk. He gave Scott 3 finance comanies to get financing. No luck there. He thinks there is more to the story... I am the optimist... The way I was raised. You look me in the eye and tell me something... I beleive it.
My problem is selling the boat for one price... Writing the bill of sale( and notorizing) for another to help with taxes. He is there and I am here..

TRUST ME I want to sell the boat. I want to help someone out if need to. I have help many times from friends to get through something. I don't need two boats. Plus my wife wants me to buy a Pontoon in the spring so my 19month old boy is going 100mph on the water. (not sure of her thinking that he wouldn't like it !!)

My thread was to get some advice on how to handle this matter. 9 out of 10 say it is not good. You say yes but you know him personally.

It is not over just got to figure the legalities out so it works for everyone.


:party-smiley-004: Sit back and we shall see!!

DaveP 12-13-2008 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by HotPursuit (Post 2758529)
I agree, but even once its sold I have had buyers not transfer the paper work. You need a bill of sale thats stamp by a notary. I owner financed the sale of my last boat and had attorneys do all the paper work.
They claimed I was protected.He could always keep the drives till paid in full.

Unfortunately in todays world, you can have a 500 page contract protecting yourself but you can still be dragged into court to defend yourself and the 500 page document.

mmareno 12-13-2008 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by DaveP (Post 2758615)
Unfortunately in todays world, you can have a 500 page contract protecting yourself but you can still be dragged into court to defend yourself and the 500 page document.

I heard that!! I don't know if there is a way to secure yourself today and not spend 5k in a lawyer to get your chit back!!

I have talked to two lawyers in 48 hours. Both have said.... Do a layaway plan ... That is it.
Everything else is to risky...

DaveP 12-13-2008 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by mmareno (Post 2758637)
Everything else is to risky...

BINGO! :D

LubeJobs42 12-14-2008 03:06 AM

If he can't afford to buy the boat, how is he going to afford the motors, the up keep and repairs, insurance etc. If he can only come up with $6k for a perofrmance boat, he is out of his league.


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