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silverskater40 01-07-2009 01:36 PM

which is faster? 40 or 46 Skater
 
Everything being equal, engines, drives, props, set up, etc which hull will be faster?

DareDevil 01-07-2009 02:42 PM

46 top end and 40 excl.

Beeing because the 46 is haevyer needs more to get TOP END and also 46 has longer tunnel more air less drag at WOT ,,,faster.

I would Quess ????!!!!!!

But i am not a cat guy ,,so don't know for shure.:eek:

Gladhe8er 01-07-2009 02:43 PM

My guess is the 40 is faster all around.

40FlatDeck 01-07-2009 02:48 PM

If Freedom went 147 with 1250's, my 40 is faster with less hp.

But you should know this....:grinser010:

silverskater40 01-07-2009 02:58 PM

flat deck, what power, props, gears, speed are you getting, what will a 40 run with 1250's just curious, I heard predator ran 174, but never got the true hp on it.thanks

pbam22 01-07-2009 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by 40FlatDeck (Post 2772742)
If Freedom went 147 with 1250's, my 40 is faster with less hp.

But you should know this....:grinser010:

ditto:drink:

Sea-Dated 01-07-2009 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by 40FlatDeck (Post 2772742)
If Freedom went 147 with 1250's, my 40 is faster with less hp.

But you should know this....:grinser010:

Keep im mind, Freedom is an older hull also....

FASTTIMES 01-07-2009 03:23 PM

what's the weight difference between the 2 ?

silverskater40 01-07-2009 03:29 PM

don't know what a 46 weighs, but my 40 weighs right at 9,000 lbs, not sure what mine will run yet, never went for a top end number, just to many boats and not enough straight water

RunninHotRacing163.1 01-07-2009 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by silverskater40 (Post 2772749)
I heard predator ran 174, but never got the true hp on it.thanks

I think Gary mentioned 1075s on pump gas :eek::party-smiley-004:






Call PETER he knows his boats


on second thought better not he is crazy busy just back from Holiday Break and playing catch up :rolleyes:

silverskater40 01-07-2009 04:26 PM

RHR thought he was around 1300-1400hp

WeaponX 01-07-2009 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by silverskater40 (Post 2772776)
don't know what a 46 weighs, but my 40 weighs right at 9,000 lbs, not sure what mine will run yet, never went for a top end number, just to many boats and not enough straight water

More like 10,200lbs:drink:

KNOT-RIGHT 01-07-2009 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by WeaponX (Post 2773007)
More like 10,200lbs:drink:

Right on........... mine came in at 10,900 with Turbines and 1/2 tanks.

The Turbines weigh 456 lbs each.
My PSI Blower motors weighed 990 each.


I would say the 40 is faster.
Bud Select ran what 210 in the 368?

More power less weight = faster (in the perfect world)

Throw some real water in the equation and the 46 will dominate.

Tom Byrd will tell ya:drink:

FREEDOM US1 01-07-2009 08:06 PM

That's weight sounds right. My 46 is about 13000 pounds with piston power. The 40 Skater is faster on flat water and the 46 can go faster in rough water.

KNOT-RIGHT 01-07-2009 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by FASTTIMES (Post 2772770)
what's the weight difference between the 2 ?

Good question.

Here is some specs right off the website.

Remember there a custom builder and Peter will build you
something more specific for your intended purpose.

40:

LOA 40
beam 11-6
weight 4750
tunnel width 66 inches
tunnel height 44 inches front
tunnel height 25 inches rear
sponson dead rise 18*

46:
LOA 45-7
Beam 12
weight 5000
tunnel width 66
tunnel height 42 front
Tunnel height 26 rear
sponson deadrise 16*

silverskater40 01-07-2009 08:31 PM

boat weighed 8800lbs per Peter fully rigged with n/a mercury racing engines when it left Skater,It is a full carbon/kevlar race, add weight of the blowers, extra carb, intercooler, per sidemaybe 400lbs more each,It might be closer to 9600lbs. I'll just run her to the scales when its finished being updated

RunninHotRacing163.1 01-07-2009 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by WeaponX (Post 2773007)
More like 10,200lbs:drink:

Anthony now thats more like it Bro .....:cool: And did the weight go up when added the new glass work , new wrap windshield , new paint ???? or does it stay the same ....:rolleyes: I thought Nunez aka HOT PURSUIT had the lightest 40 Peter ever layed up

JCPERF 01-07-2009 09:50 PM

Byrdmans 46 went 192.I never heard of a 40 going that fast.:evilb::cool:

Coolerman 01-08-2009 12:23 AM

How fast is Bobbits skater? I know he was saying "170" in the havazoo vid when a motor let go.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLqhnaYzPXQ

Coolerman 01-08-2009 12:25 AM

jet set did 198

Formula_353 01-08-2009 01:30 AM

In the perfect world a 40' skater in the real world a 46'

40FlatDeck 01-08-2009 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by silverskater40 (Post 2772749)
flat deck, what power, props, gears, speed are you getting, what will a 40 run with 1250's just curious, I heard predator ran 174, but never got the true hp on it.thanks

1.35/39 Herrings/6600-6700rpm/9% slip/1175ish hp

The OLD Predator ran around 1350hp and 174....

The NEW Predator will be a freight train....:ernaehrung004:

RunninHotRacing163.1 01-08-2009 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by 40FlatDeck (Post 2773363)
1.35/39 Herrings/6600-6700rpm/9% slip/1175ish hp

The OLD Predator ran around 1350hp and 174....

The NEW Predator will be a freight train....:ernaehrung004:

Niiiiiiiiiiiice ERIK :ernaehrung004:

AppSysCons 01-08-2009 10:24 AM

According to Skater web site

40 runs 150 with T/1100hp
46 runs 145 with T/1100hp

Remember Peter can and will, build to your needs.

You can get what you want, the way you want it.

Brad Zastrow 01-08-2009 11:20 AM

36 or 388 is faster than the 40 or 46. The 40 is faster than the 46.

silverskater40 01-08-2009 01:25 PM

40 flat deck, what diameter do you run on your Herings? are you happy with the 39's, just getting ready to buy some 40's, what speeds do you see with 1175hp, thats close to what I'll be when they are completed, thanks

Detail Toyz 01-08-2009 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by 40FlatDeck (Post 2773363)
1.35/39 Herrings/6600-6700rpm/9% slip/1175ish hp

The OLD Predator ran around 1350hp and 174....

The NEW Predator will be a freight train....:ernaehrung004:

New Predator!!:eek:

RunninHotRacing163.1 01-08-2009 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Detail Toyz (Post 2773645)
New Predator!!:eek:

UT - OH the Cats out of the bag now Erik :rolleyes:LMAO

riggerjohn 01-08-2009 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by KNOT-RIGHT (Post 2773068)
Good question.

Here is some specs right off the website.

Remember there a custom builder and Peter will build you
something more specific for your intended purpose.

40:

LOA 40
beam 11-6
weight 4750
tunnel width 66 inches
tunnel height 44 inches front
tunnel height 25 inches rear
sponson dead rise 18*

46:
LOA 45-7
Beam 12
weight 5000
tunnel width 66
tunnel height 42 front
Tunnel height 26 rear
sponson deadrise 16*

remember there are two differant 40 Skaters new and classic
completely differant

The Menace 01-08-2009 10:06 PM

Keep in mind that all Skaters are not created equal.

Skaters can be:

Fiberglass
Kevlar
Carbon fiber

Skaters can be built for pleasure or race which may alter the layup and ultimately the weight.

Speed to a given hull is determined by weight to horsepower ratio as well as gearing and props.

My 46 weighs LESS than my 40.

Tom A. 01-09-2009 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by saxman (Post 2773218)
jet set did 198

Second nod to Jet Set. I have been on her at 175 with alot of room to go.

40FlatDeck 01-09-2009 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by Detail Toyz (Post 2773645)
New Predator!!:eek:

Her debut will be at Desert Storm.....

Gary has overlooked nothing and didn't spare a penny...

They are finishing Predator up at Skater as we speak.

They have gone 174 with with a 17 year old hull....the new one will be a touch faster!!!:ernaehrung004:

40FlatDeck 01-09-2009 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by RunninHotRacing158 (Post 2773672)
UT - OH the Cats out of the bag now Erik :rolleyes:LMAO

You know it Big Daddy!!!!

RunninHotRacing163.1 01-09-2009 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by 40FlatDeck (Post 2774179)
You know it Big Daddy!!!!

Oh Yeah !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!call me SKATER Bro your # is disconnected :cool-smiley-027: See ya'll at Larrys in a few weeks:ernaehrung004::ernaehrung004:

silverskater40 01-09-2009 07:40 PM

can't wait to see the new Predator, knowing Gary I'm sure it will be a rocket, he must want to be first to card stop

FASTTIMES 01-09-2009 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by The Menace (Post 2773833)
Keep in mind that all Skaters are not created equal.

Skaters can be:

Fiberglass
Kevlar
Carbon fiber

Skaters can be built for pleasure or race which may alter the layup and ultimately the weight.

Speed to a given hull is determined by weight to horsepower ratio as well as gearing and props.

My 46 weighs LESS than my 40.

Thats true! Purpose built machines!

HotPursuit 01-09-2009 10:04 PM

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Maybe too lite!! :drink: but was a world offshore and national champ many times.If it wasn't for the inland racing that goes on now this hull would still be taking checkerd flags!! 4,160 lb out the mold!! :ernaehrung004:
Now that was Offshore Racing!!!

RunninHotRacing163.1 01-10-2009 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by HotPursuit (Post 2774610)
Maybe too lite!! :drink: but was a world offshore and national champ many times.If it wasn't for the inland racing that goes on now this hull would still be taking checkerd flags!! 4,160 lb out the mold!! :ernaehrung004:
Now that was Offshore Racing!!!

Do you have a pilots licence for that thing ...LoL :cool-smiley-027::ernaehrung004:

HotPursuit 01-10-2009 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by RunninHotRacing158 (Post 2774825)
Do you have a pilots licence for that thing ...LoL :cool-smiley-027::ernaehrung004:

Fly the Skater Skies
license and onboard oxygen!! :party-smiley-048:

FREEDOM US1 01-11-2009 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by HotPursuit (Post 2775040)
Fly the Skater Skies
license and onboard oxygen!! :party-smiley-048:

That's more like it! Love the rough stuff!!! Got the 46 to 150 mph today!!! That's it, back to loading up 3000 more pounds of fuel and people and going on poker runs. :drink:


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