Like Tree0Likes

Best Offshore running fuel efficient 25-30'??

Reply
Old 02-04-2009, 08:27 PM
  #1
Registered
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 3
Default Best Offshore running fuel efficient 25-30'??

Hey, Iíve also posted this on the hull truth so if youíre multi-forum types, yes, itís the same idiot. Iím looking for your opinions on the best combo of speed, fuel efficiency, build quality and sea-keeping ability (esp. head seas) in a boat, 25-30í, to run in settled weather from Florida to the Abacos, Eleuthera and Out Islands. I have gone across the board in my own opinions, from powercats, to outright ex-race boats, the intrepid/contender types, Seavee/Regulator diesels, and general purpose boats like Whaler, Dusky and Mako, and also from twin outboards, to single outboard & kicker (less weight, more fuel efficiency) to single diesel. My goal is to run 25-35knots, at 2.0mpg or better in an honest gulfstream 2-4í. Of course faster is always a bonus. Range is also desirable, to avoid too much expensive Bahamian fuel, but I figure bladders will always work if the tankage canít be expanded easily. Iíd also like to have some sort of cuddy.
While Iíve looked into all these boats, the ones I drool over tend toward the go-fast world, like the awesome rebuilt ex full race Banana boat I never got up to NC to see last year. I hesitated on it, because, like some of the posts here agonizing between ccís and go fasts, I figured it might not be versatile enough for fishing, diving, etc. But it had 2x200 Merc o/bís so no IO maintenance issues. Iíve also been looking at an Intrepid 24WA (made only a few in the 90ís) with a single 250.
So are there boats like that you guys would recommend? Either ccís or boats like the banana boat or maybe the Fountain 27SF (the 31SF isnít fast enough with the 250ís to get over 2mpg according to the performance bulletins). Iíve seen people recommend Donziís (and Concepts -- but not for way offshore though, unless itís self bailing). Yacht Auctions has a cheap Donzi ZF26, probably could get it for $18k or so. http://www.yachtauctions.com/detail.asp?stockNo=18887
Other related important questionsÖÖ
How fast can you really go in a 25-30 footer in honest 2-4í conditions without pounding your kidneys out? I watched some utube videos of a pantera 24 in what looked like 2-4 or 3-5 in a race, but no clue how fast he was going.
Also, Iíd keep the boat in the water, which is another strike against the IOÖbut from reading this forum Iím getting the sense that IOís v. O/Bís the outboards have much fewer maintenance requirements?
Thanks for your thoughts.
sate888 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2009, 09:00 PM
  #2
Registered
 
JO - PANTERABOATS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Miami,FL. USA
My Boats: Boat racing ,building
Posts: 2,804
Default

sate888,

I have a customer named Austin who is an OSO member and runs back in forth from South Florida to Abaco a few times a year. He owns a 1999 Pantera 28' that we re-powered last year with new twin 6.2 MPI 320 HP Mercruiser packages.He is very happy with the fuel efficiency with this set up. I am sure he will chime in if he reads this thread.

Here is a picture of his Pantera 28'.
Attached Thumbnails
Best Offshore running fuel efficient 25-30'??-dental-pics.-003.jpg   Best Offshore running fuel efficient 25-30'??-dental-pics.-060.jpg   Best Offshore running fuel efficient 25-30'??-boat-pics.-1121.jpg  


Last edited by JO - PANTERABOATS; 02-04-2009 at 09:15 PM.
JO - PANTERABOATS is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2009, 09:04 PM
  #3
Registered
 
JO - PANTERABOATS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Miami,FL. USA
My Boats: Boat racing ,building
Posts: 2,804
Default

This is another great set up on our Pantera 28' model. Twin 300 XS Mercury outboards. Extended cockpit and nice cabin if you want to spend a night.

JO - Pantera Boats

WWW.Panteraboats.com
Attached Thumbnails
Best Offshore running fuel efficient 25-30'??-pics.-335.jpg   Best Offshore running fuel efficient 25-30'??-pics.-331.jpg   Best Offshore running fuel efficient 25-30'??-pics.-319.jpg  


Last edited by JO - PANTERABOATS; 02-04-2009 at 09:10 PM.
JO - PANTERABOATS is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2009, 09:10 PM
  #4
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
 
Ptufaro's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Metairie, La.
Posts: 660
Default

How much wieght does it need to carry?
Ptufaro is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2009, 09:17 PM
  #5
Registered
 
dreamer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: cleveland
My Boats: boatless... with money in the bank!!
Posts: 5,798
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ptufaro View Post
How much wieght does it need to carry?






dreamer is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2009, 10:01 PM
  #6
Registered
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: CT
My Boats: Formula 303 SR-1
Posts: 571
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JO - PANTERABOATS View Post
This is another great set up on our Pantera 28' model. Twin 300 XS Mercury outboards.
That boat is awesome! And kudos to the guy who takes his Pantera back and forth to Abaco, that must be a blast.
BowenCT is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 08:28 AM
  #7
Registered
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 3
Default

Thanks everyone....as to weight to carry it'd be mostly for 2 people, minimal gear, but as much fuel as the boat could carry....so say 200gals -- 1400lbs plus people/gear.
On the Pantera 28, do you guys know what both boats performance numbers are...speed and mpg at cruise, fast cruise, wot? Thanks
sate888 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 12:01 PM
  #8
Registered
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Sunland, CA
My Boats: 2000 Fountain 32 Sportfish Cruiser
Posts: 377
Default

Skipjack 262 single diesel. You'll get 3 to 3.5 nmpg at 25 to 30 knots, 400 mile range is pretty typical.

http://www.skipjack-boats.com/owners6.html
carcrash is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 01:38 PM
  #9
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
 
4mulafastech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Washington, MO
My Boats: 2006 Formula 292 FasTech / 2007 Ranger Reata 190VS
Posts: 1,416
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sate888 View Post
Thanks everyone....as to weight to carry it'd be mostly for 2 people, minimal gear, but as much fuel as the boat could carry....so say 200gals -- 1400lbs plus people/gear.
On the Pantera 28, do you guys know what both boats performance numbers are...speed and mpg at cruise, fast cruise, wot? Thanks
I have a 292 Formula Fastech with the same 6.2's and she will average 1.8-2.0 mpg up to 50 mph with a range of 200+ miles (although... probably not in 2-4 footers!). Top speed is 70 mph.
4mulafastech is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 03:18 PM
  #10
Offshoreonly Advertiser
Offshoreonly Advertiser
Trade Score: (2)
 
DiamondPerformance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: De.
Posts: 1,135
Default

A 30ft Skater with twin Merc. Opti Max 300xs gets 4mpg at 85mph, top speed 105mph.
__________________
www.diamondperformanceparts.com
[email protected]
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Diamon...07878772615803
302-521-0123

The Best Parts & Service At The Best Price

Last edited by DiamondPerformance; 02-05-2009 at 04:03 PM.
DiamondPerformance is offline  
Reply With Quote
Reply

Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Schweeng
Cigarette
29
12-10-2006 09:38 PM
customryder
General Boating Discussion
4
05-02-2006 08:07 AM
WildSafaris
General Q & A
10
03-21-2006 07:42 PM
BraunCapital
General Boating Discussion
0
06-04-2003 05:25 PM



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:50 AM.


Copyright 2011 OffShoreOnly. All rights reserved.