Octane booster / Tulane ????
 

How much Tulane ( not sure on the spelling ) or is there a better Octane booster. I need to bring 89 to 91 or higher. I have a 500 gal. tank at my house and the best I can get them to drop is 89. So every month I need to mix some gas.

Thanks, Greg

Greg i believe its Toulene We take 700 gallons of 91 Octane and add 75 gallons of Toulene and were well over 100 Octane..I may have read on Google Toulene is 114 Octane :ernaehrung004:

So if I did 470 gal. in the tank then 30 in Toulene I would be fine.

I swear by toluene - fabulous stuff. I use a 5/1 gas to toluene mixture in my TT 300Z and it goes crazy.

your formula will give you 90.5 octane :ernaehrung004::ernaehrung004:
good luck

I thought It took a 30% mixture to make 98.9 from 92
and 10% to make 94.3 from 92? according to the formula 700gallons of 91 and 75 gallons of Toluene would only be 93.2 octane. (700x91)+(75x114) / 775gal=93.2
you would need about 375 gallons of Toluene to 700gals of 91 to make 100 octane.(700x91)+(375x114) / 1075gal=99.02

Lapsofreason you will need 10% to get to 91 from 89
(400x89)+(40x114) / 440gal=91.27

Bill, I believe your method gives you about a little over 93 oct.

Here, let's say that toulene is actually 114 octane, OK? Don't know what it really is, but let's say it's 114. Now, here's the correct way to measure octane, and it's by points. This is how one of the chemists at Sunoco explained it to me several years ago.

If you're got 700 gals of 91, that's 91 points X 700 which equals 63,700 points (R&M points that is). Now you've got another 75 gals of 114, so 75X114 points is 8550 points. Now you add the 63,700 points along with the 8550 points from the 114, and you get a total points of 72250. Now we have a total gals of 775, and 72250 points. You have to divide the 72250 points by the total amount of gals, and that is 775, which gives you a total R&M point value of 93.225 octane t
rating. But because of the lead content in toulene, as in most leaded racing gasolines such as 110, 112, 116 etc, they figure the actual rating is usually rounded off to the next higher number, and in this case, you can actually say that you have an honest 94 R&M octane rating.

I run a mixture of 10 gals of 93, along with 5 gals of 110, and that gives me about a 99.5 octane. Here's how you figure it.

10 gals of 93 = 930 points
5 gals of 110 = 550 points
total points of 1480
total gals of gas = 15 divide 1480 by the total gals of gas, and you have your octane rating (plus about 1 point) 98.666 plus about 1 point or about 99.5/100 octane. I usually mix 100 to 150 gals at one time, and I always tip the 110 fuel a little longer.
This is the correct way to measure octane R&M point values.

Hope this helps. :ernaehrung004:

So how much does the Tolulene cost per gallon

Last 55 gallon drums we bought were 3.50 a gallon ,menards and home depot have the 1 gallon jugs:cool-smiley-027:

$3.50/GAL doesn't sound bad......cheaper then I pay for gas on the water.........

Octane Boost does little or nothing to raise the actual octane of the fuel - it does, however, have some effect on retarding pre-detonation. That's not enough in my opinion to warrant usage of the stuff. Read the bottles carefully - they state "raises octane as much as "x" points" where "x" represents the "tenth" in the octane rating - i.e. if they say it raises the octane 3 points that means it takes 89.0 to 89.3 not 89 to 92.

Toluene is the only way to go other than adding AV Gas or some other higher octane gas to 89. 10X has the formula correct - there are lots of articles on the internet that talk about using Toluene as an octane boost.

bill where are you buying your 55 gal drums,i need 1?:ernaehrung004:

Mike the Sherwin Williams paint store in frankfort rt 45 & St francis . no deposit on barrels let me know they may ask you for a account # for the good pricing :ernaehrung004::ernaehrung004:

Check out ACES octane boost. One of the prominent engine builders over on Scream and Fly recently did an interesting test with it and was found to be successful. Check it out:

http://forums.screamandfly.com/forum...d.php?t=180557

The test was done with a high performance OB that would typically run 100% race fuel and any sort of running on just 93 octane would melt this motor down.

i never heard of using toulene, I have been using torco, is toulene just as good?

http://torcoracefuel.net/pro-accelerator.html

I cant speak for the Ace product however Rudy Dryden had a friend at an oil company perform octane tests testing on all of the top name boost products including Torco .They essentially gained up to 1.5 points over 93 or 94.5 total octane with the Torco being the best.

With that being said they also tested toulene which used to contain detonation worked the best and netted 98.5 octane when mixed 10% mix with 93 pump gas.

You have to be careful not to use to much as you will loose throttle response etc.
It is not a substitute for race fuel by any means, we run a 10% or less mix of toulene and 93 up to 8 lbs of boost at which time our methanol injection kicks in.
For us at $3.00 per gallon 55 gallon drums it gives a bit of safety over straight pump gas that none of the high dollar additives really give us.
We run knock sensors,air fuel and egt sensors on 4 holes and have had zero issues running 100s of gallons of 10% mixed toulene to this point 235 hrs so far.
Works for us!

8 lbs of boost at which time our methanol injection kicks in. !!!! :eek::ernaehrung004:

I am interested in the Ice Injection. I am working on the motors now.. I May have a pair of 1100's. Email me so I can call you.. WE can talk about this

[email protected]

Thanks

Are you adding mystery oil or something as a lubricant when mixing toulene?

Yes to the Methanol ,not to the Toluene :ernaehrung004:

I heard some really good things about the Ice injection. I was told that it made more horsepower on a dyno??

I saw on another thread you are or did get it??

Have you used it??

Yep BIG Daddy I did the ICE INJECTION setup give Rudy a call @ 302-367-4962 he definetly knows his chit ... ran it last year and set-up was flawless just could'nt keep drives on the b!@tch :ernaehrung004:

Mario,
I sent you an E mail feel free to call anytime we will hook you up if you decide to inject it.Your in the neighborhood, pretty much every Saturday night until the season kicks off in a few weeks is a motor head convention at the Bay house.
In a month or so it will be early dismissal Friday's where we all meet up at 1 or 2:00 gas em up and run south to happy hr, dinner what ever.Should be a fun bunch this Summer with all the new cats on the Bay.

Glen

Glen