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Old 04-11-2009, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by outriggers
I get the point about loose banks, but I think they have gone the other way. I'm in the proceses of a home refi. Same company, just went to a 10 year, 130k on a 600K house, 800 score. I thought that would be a no brainer, even if they turn me down they still hold the paper. Now they want other paperwork and 95% of my income is on a W2 or a 1099. WTF I can't imagine what a boat or R/V would be like. Doug
It is almost impossible to get a performance boat loan right now!! unless you dont need the loan and already have the money, then the bank will give you the loan!!!

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I don't care if it is a Fountain... This is a buy with this power and drive package. And this is only the asking price. Who knows what it will actually sell for.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o29750-en.html
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Originally Posted by drypipetiger
I don't care if it is a Fountain... This is a buy with this power and drive package. And this is only the asking price. Who knows what it will actually sell for.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o29750-en.html
I know where the same boat in red and black is for sale for the same money too.
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Originally Posted by drypipetiger
I don't care if it is a Fountain... This is a buy with this power and drive package. And this is only the asking price. Who knows what it will actually sell for.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o29750-en.html

that's more than some people spend on a house... and i disagree... 250k for a 38' 2007 "Anyhing Performance" boat is WAY overpriced in this economy.

i do agree however that the banks shoulder much of the blame here offering "no income verification" home loans to people who clearly could not afford them...but in the end, the blame lies with the consumer who should know that if they make 1k a month, a 2k per month home loan is more than they can afford... simple arithmetic
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and i disagree... 250k for a 38' 2007 "Anyhing Performance" boat is WAY overpriced in this economy.
It's a 42 footer.
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Old 07-02-2009, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
Yeah but how many recreational boat companies were actually around then?
Chris Craft, Gar Wood, Egg Harbor, Ventnor, ETc, etc.
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Old 07-02-2009, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by GLH
Way to many people listen and believe the medias and they are f@cking doom and gloom...

I mean if you listen to these clowns the next move is a gun in your mouth after voting for a democrat soup kitchen lawyer.
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Actually...The media is now trying to PLAY DOWN how bad the economy is to make Obama seem like he's having some success.

The facts are simple as I see it....

1. The libs ruined the economy by forcing banks to give mortgages to deadbeats or over reachers, and the media ignored it.

2. The libs blamed it all on Bush and the media trashed him

3. Even worse Libs (Socialist revolutionaries) got elected as a result and the media led the parade.

4. Now our major manufacturing core is destroyed, The housing market is in shambles, our banks don't lend, layoffs and unemployment is soaring (covered up somewhat by people who have been on unemployment for so long that they are now moving over to the welfare rolls), our taxes are about to go into orbit, and the media is talking about "signs of recovery", because the rate of decline is "slowing".

5. Bottom line.....At least 2 more years of this debacle, during which period our entire life styles, everyday brands, and leisure choices will change markedly for the worse, and the media will be concentrating solely on getting Obama re-elected playing "Happy Days are here again" for the nitwit voters.

I am in the truck transportation business and we monitor tonnage traveling on all modes, rail, air, water and road... there are NO SIGNS of improvement.....in any area...other than seasonal produce.

We voted these b*st*rds in and the cost is going to be too much to swallow.

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Originally Posted by drypipetiger
It's a 42 footer.
it's a fountain. everyone knows it's really only 38 feet.
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Originally Posted by T2x
Actually...The media is now trying to PLAY DOWN how bad the economy is to make Obama seem like he's having some success.

The facts are simple as I see it....

1. The libs ruined the economy by forcing banks to give mortgages to deadbeats or over reachers, and the media ignored it.

2. The libs blamed it all on Bush and the media trashed him

3. Even worse Libs (Socialist revolutionaries) got elected as a result and the media led the parade.

4. Now our major manufacturing core is destroyed, The housing market is in shambles, our banks don't lend, layoffs and unemployment is soaring (covered up somewhat by people who have been on unemployment for so long that they are now moving over to the welfare rolls), our taxes are about to go into orbit, and the media is talking about "signs of recovery", because the rate of decline is "slowing".

5. Bottom line.....At least 2 more years of this debacle, during which period our entire life styles, everyday brands, and leisure choices will change markedly for the worse, and the media will be concentrating solely on getting Obama re-elected playing "Happy Days are here again" for the nitwit voters.

I am in the truck transportation business and we monitor tonnage traveling on all modes, rail, air, water and road... there are NO SIGNS of improvement.....in any area...other than seasonal produce.

We voted these b*st*rds in and the cost is going to be too much to swallow.

T2x
wise beyond your years(which i hear are many)...

although...I did not vote this administration into office...many of you had the wool pulled over your eyes by a smooth talking lawyer....nothing more.

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Originally Posted by drypipetiger
I don't care if it is a Fountain... This is a buy with this power and drive package. And this is only the asking price. Who knows what it will actually sell for.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o29750-en.html

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