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SmurfOnABoat 05-04-2009 09:33 PM

Removing boat from trailer in driveway, pics...
 
Well, I needed to do some fiberglass work, and needed to get to some areas down low on the hull, and wanted to see what was beneath the bunks. So decided to pull the trailer...

All in all, was pretty easy for my first ever attempt. Took about 30 minutes.

First I started by lowering the front of the trailer as far as possible and blocked the stern. Then slowly raised the front back up, which pulled the rear off the trailer. After I got it to a level I was happy with, we started jacking up in the center, and rolling the trailer out one cross beam at a time.

Should be back on in a week or so. Really was not as hard as I thought it would be.

Enjoy!

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Jigsaw89 05-04-2009 10:15 PM

I don't know if I'm overly cautious or what, but I wouldn't be caught doing work on that hull if it required me to lay under it. Looks dangerous, but to each his own. I like to use cinder blocks... 2 @ time for each stack with each stack alternated = then II on top of each other with the top being a single cinder block with 2x4 wood contacting the hull. Three stacks with 'hurricane' stands to prevent the boat from being blown or rocked off the 3-point rig.

SmurfOnABoat 05-04-2009 10:30 PM

I have 6 points of contact on this setup. Like I said, I have never done this before, I definitely didnt want to use a hollow block, so I used pavers (I am a landscaper, had a couple thousand laying around) which are solid, with a 8000lbs crush rating, and they are through bolted holding all of them together tightly.

I didnt have and tips or tricks to go off of, sorta just did this one on my own. Next time I will have to see what everyone else says is a good idea. Hopefully is stays afloat on the stands for a week.

Jigsaw89 05-04-2009 10:38 PM

I would chain those 2 front stands together so there is little chance of them pulling away from the hull. Good luck with your project!

SmurfOnABoat 05-04-2009 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by Jigsaw89 (Post 2859025)
I would chain those 2 front stands together so there is little chance of them pulling away from the hull. Good luck with your project!

Thats a very good idea... I think i will do that.. :ernaehrung004:

Audiofn 05-05-2009 06:01 AM

Yup you NEED to chain them together. The only real concern that I would have is when you back the trailer in be very carefull that you do not push on the boat at all or those back supports could just topple over because they are so narrow.

Audiofn 05-05-2009 06:04 AM

I would move your real stands that you have from the front of the boat to the back when you go to put the trailer under. It looks like you have bennetts but if those are K-Planes you can put the real boat stands under the trim tabs and chain them together for support. If they are Bennets I do not think it will work.

21eagle 05-05-2009 06:14 AM

i agree
 
next time use cynder blocks. yes the hollow ones but up on end very strong. those pavers have to make that thing one wobbley mofo lol i use blocks, 2x6's 8ft long and more block really straddle that rear so it doesnt move around

SmurfOnABoat 05-05-2009 06:41 AM

I have the majority of the weight on the keel. You can push on the very front of the bow, or the rear of the swim platform and the boat doesn't move at all. I used the tallpiles to get the boat off the trailer, but I didnt want to use that many blocks as the main support, so its there to give it stability where as the 3 block setup, and the auto jack stand are holding the boat off the ground, then I have the stands to prevent roll.

I will use the cinder blocks next time!

AudioFn - how do you tell? They say InstaTrim on them.

Also, should I move the boat/side stands back any right now. Do I have the too far forward to prevent anything?

Thanks everybody.

21eagle 05-05-2009 06:58 AM

keel
 
what do you have ontop of that jackstand towards the front on the keel??

Hannibal41 05-05-2009 07:25 AM

this has to be a joke?!? are you serious using pavers to block your boat??? come on april fools...

c_deezy 05-05-2009 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by Jigsaw89 (Post 2859025)
I would chain those 2 front stands together so there is little chance of them pulling away from the hull. Good luck with your project!

Definitely chain them together.


Originally Posted by SmurfOnAGixxer (Post 2859120)

AudioFn - how do you tell? They say InstaTrim on them.

The Instatims are a Bennet-esque trim tab. Not k-planes.

Your jackstands are a little far forward, there isn't much weight up in the bow and as long as nobody is going to be going into the boat while its on the stands (which they shouldn't) I would move them back to just slightly in front of the helm area.

SmurfOnABoat 05-05-2009 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by Hannibal41 (Post 2859145)
this has to be a joke?!? are you serious using pavers to block your boat??? come on april fools...

No joke. Pavers have a higher pressure rating per square inch than cinder blocks do. What would make these solid pavers crack or crumble and a hollow cinder block not?

SmurfOnABoat 05-05-2009 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by c_deezy (Post 2859148)
Definitely chain them together.



The Instatims are a Bennet-esque trim tab. Not k-planes.

Your jackstands are a little far forward, there isn't much weight up in the bow and as long as nobody is going to be going into the boat while its on the stands (which they shouldn't) I would move them back to just slightly in front of the helm area.


Originally Posted by c_deezy (Post 2859148)
Definitely chain them together.



The Instatims are a Bennet-esque trim tab. Not k-planes.

Your jackstands are a little far forward, there isn't much weight up in the bow and as long as nobody is going to be going into the boat while its on the stands (which they shouldn't) I would move them back to just slightly in front of the helm area.


Ok I will move them back tonight when I get home... And no one will be in the boat.

DONZIEBRI 05-05-2009 08:38 AM

This is way scary!Please do not work under that boat with the current set-up.
Notice the adjustable stands in front.Built with a wide base.
Use cinder blocks,4x4's,or even pavers,but start with a wide base at the ground and work your way up like a pyramid.

SmurfOnABoat 05-05-2009 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by DONZIEBRI (Post 2859195)
This is way scary!Please do not work under that boat with the current set-up.
Notice the adjustable stands in front.Built with a wide base.
Use cinder blocks,4x4's,or even pavers,but start with a wide base at the ground and work your way up like a pyramid.

Should I add more support under the keel? How can I go about changing it now?

Westcoast 05-05-2009 09:04 AM

I think for a driveway job you did great. As long as all the weight is on the keel the stands and blocks should only be used to balance the vessel.

SmurfOnABoat 05-05-2009 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by Westcoast (Post 2859213)
I think for a driveway job you did great. As long as all the weight is on the keel the stands and blocks should only be used to balance the vessel.

That is exactly how it is setup. On the last step before completely pulling the trailer, I made the stern float a little, then adjusted the forward most keel stand to put some pressure on the stern blocks for balance. 75% of the weight I would say is on the keel, with the other being shared by the stern blocks probably 20%, and front boat stands probably about 5%

DONZIEBRI 05-05-2009 10:35 AM

[QUOTE=SmurfOnAGixxer;2859208]Should I add more support under the keel? How can I go about changing it now?[/QUOTE

Keel support looks fine.I think you need more rigid supports under the aft corners.

c_deezy 05-05-2009 10:46 AM

The issue with the pavers isn't that they are unable to support the load, it is that you have a single stack. Would be relatively easy to kick the middle of the stack out and then down goes your boat. I.E. that kids game, Jenga I think it is?

SmurfOnABoat 05-05-2009 12:33 PM

I am adding a second set of boat jacks tonight. So even if the aft blocks kicked out, with the weight on the keel, and 2 stands per side prevent the boat from rolling?

Thanks for the advice everyone, I will definitely set everything up a little better next time with the input I have now... Hopefully no hurricanes blow through Detroit in the next week... lol

TEAMBAJA 05-05-2009 12:45 PM

I would have to say your original setup is far superior to some of the stuff Ive seen in marinas that sat all winter.

Snap some pictures this fall when you are walking through a random marina, this board will have a field day!:drink:

Safety First 01-08-2010 11:16 PM

Portable Boat Lift
 
If you're like me you have tried any number of ways to separate your boat from your trailer to service the trailer or the boat hull. I have used a product by Portable Boat Lift that allows one person to safely separate their boat from their trailer in minutes, anywhere. They can be found at link below www.portableboatlift.comhttp://www.portableboatlift.net/imag..._spze_ewib.jpg

tomtbone1993 01-09-2010 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by Safety First (Post 3020411)
If you're like me you have tried any number of ways to separate your boat from your trailer to service the trailer or the boat hull. I have used a product by Portable Boat Lift that allows one person to safely separate their boat from their trailer in minutes, anywhere. They can be found at link below www.portableboatlift.comhttp://www.portableboatlift.net/imag..._spze_ewib.jpg

that is pretty neat but it says its made for boats 25ft or less...Is this your company?

US1 Fountain 01-09-2010 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by SmurfOnABoat (Post 2859120)
AudioFn - how do you tell? They say InstaTrim on them.

Thanks everybody.

Instatrim is made by Boat Levelers. You'll just rip the self tapping mounting screws out of the hull if you try to chain anything to them, or bend the SS plates and break the rams. Leave them up and alone. Yeah, those forwards stands are doing nothing w/o a chain from 1 to the other, then I can see the chain wanting to still slide forward. I'd move them towards the back where they will be pushing straight down as much as possible. They are mostly for keeping the boat balanced on your keel blocks, not support. But they gotta be secure.

Tugboat1st 06-02-2014 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by 21eagle (Post 2859112)
next time use cynder blocks. yes the hollow ones but up on end very strong. those pavers have to make that thing one wobbley mofo lol i use blocks, 2x6's 8ft long and more block really straddle that rear so it doesnt move around

I wouldn't recommend cinder blocks...very weak and prone to breakage. If you wish to go with something like that, use concrete blocks. A little more expensive but a lot stronger. Wood works best.

pstorti 06-02-2014 04:54 PM

DO NOT USE CINDER BLOCKS! they will fail easily under load, the pavers are a better option but not ideal, wood or purpose built stands are the best option. It is against OHSA regulations to use cinder blocks under scaffold legs, many people have been injured relying on them.

tommymonza 06-02-2014 05:04 PM

I don't know where you guys are buying your cinder blocks but the ones around here I wouldn't prop up a dinghy. I picked a couple up out of the lumber yard a while back and the side crumbled in my hand when i grabbed it. Had another 2 fall apart in the back of the truck on the way to the job just from the vibration.

Unlimited jd 06-02-2014 05:38 PM

You guys see that this thread is 4 1/2 years old right??? Lol

JRider 06-02-2014 05:50 PM

Is it still on blocks...Lmao

mmb 06-02-2014 07:27 PM

I would use 8x8 wood posts cut in 2' lengths instead of blocks or pavers...

I used to support 70,000lb machines with wood blocking when I had to work on them!


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