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FlyinZX14 06-08-2009 08:56 PM

Blower question
 
I have a B&M 177 mini blower that I am wanting to put on my 454. Im trying to consider all the problems I will run into while installing it. I think I have just about everything covered except for the water outlet on the front of the intake where a thermostat normally goes. Mine has the mercruiser block with a few lines going to the exhaust manifolds.

It doesnt appear to me that this will fit. Does anyone make anything to solve this? Or is there another way around it?

TIA !

SmurfOnABoat 06-08-2009 09:09 PM

Maybe these will help solve your thermostat problem:

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...nresults=false

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

B38 06-08-2009 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by SmurfOnAGixxer (Post 2883840)

He is correct with the latter offset.
Goodluck, I am runnin two of them.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8WCkEoMmIU

FlyinZX14 06-08-2009 10:03 PM

Thanks Smurf!

hmm, thats cool, Ive never seen those before...

That offset allows you to run the rest of your factory mercruiser plumbing?

Is that what you are running MrBIII ?

B38 06-09-2009 05:43 AM

Yup:evilb:

FlyinZX14 06-09-2009 01:40 PM

excellent! As far as I can tell that should be my last issue as far as installation. My engine only has less than 8 hours on it so I should be in good shape there...

I wonder if the factory thunderbolt ignition should be upgraded? Its the factory 330 hp ignition, any thoughts?

Thanks for the input!

FlyinZX14 06-11-2009 04:28 PM

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku


Can I run my factory mercruiser thermostat housing with this piece?

It doesnt look like it is offset enough to run the mercruiser thermostat housing with all the lines running to the exhaust manifolds.

I just hate to spend $130 if it wont work!

Im trying to make this as much a direct install as possible.

Thanks for all the help.

fireboatpilot 06-11-2009 09:20 PM

Try calling "The Blower Shop" they do all the repairs and rebuilds of B&M blowers and should have the correct piece for the 177 which is a straight piece that kicks it forward and over about 4: to clear the blower snout. They probly have it in a used piece at a discount. Your ign. should be fine. That blower only puts out around 5 lbs boost max. Good to wake up a stock engine. I ran 2 of them for awhile then went to the 250's for a little more umph. Get the right bottom crank pullies. If you don't have them I have one set left over.

FlyinZX14 06-12-2009 12:21 AM

Thanks for the info! Ill call em tomorrow and see if they have what I need.

blue thunder 06-12-2009 11:52 AM

You need to run less total timing so look for a tbolt v-6 module with only 14* total advance. You stock v-8 module will probably have 24* which puts your idle timing to low. Set the total at 30* and you will be close to good.

When I did my upgrades one problem I missed was the pulley ratios. I needed to change the water pump pulley to a different size to match the new v-groove/rib combo blower pulley. I kept thowing belts and replaced everything on the front of the engine before it dawned on me the problem.

FlyinZX14 06-12-2009 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by blue thunder (Post 2886831)
You need to run less total timing so look for a tbolt v-6 module with only 14* total advance. You stock v-8 module will probably have 24* which puts your idle timing to low. Set the total at 30* and you will be close to good.

When I did my upgrades one problem I missed was the pulley ratios. I needed to change the water pump pulley to a different size to match the new v-groove/rib combo blower pulley. I kept thowing belts and replaced everything on the front of the engine before it dawned on me the problem.

Thanks for the suggestion. the guy I got the blower from was having problems tossing the belt due to pulley alignment and he had to have the crankshaft spacer turned down just a bit. I am hoping I get lucky and have good belt alignment from the get go ( lol what are those chances!)

I appreciate all the advice, I dont know alot about the thunderbolt so that helps out a ton!

blue thunder 06-12-2009 01:40 PM

I wasn't throwing the blower pulley, it was the circulating pump, alternator and power steering belts that were the problem. Good luck with the install. I gained nearly 10mph with the addition of my 177s.

PatriYacht 06-15-2009 08:11 AM

Stainless Marine makes a thermostat housing for use with the 177 blower. Like everything Stainless makes, it's beautiful and ex$pensive.


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