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I will either be flamed to holy hell, or start the best thread ever. I have my eye on a Scarab SCS. I grew up on boats, mostly cruisers in the power dept. & racing cats in the sailing dept.

That being said I am in the market for a go fast toy that doesn't rely on the wind.

If you were going to spend 20-30K for turnkey fun, single engine, but upgradeable in th HP dept... What would you be looking for?

maybe a 25 Active Thunder or Superboat Y2K if you want a single. Honestly i would go twins and in that price range you should easily to find an older 30 Scarab or 30SS Sonic.

What you would have is a $20-30K boat on it's way to $40-50K investment which will shortly revert to a $10-20K market value by 2012-2014 :drink:...but you will be wearing a big smile and having a lot of fun during the ride.

This: http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o29196-en.html

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where will you be doing most of your boating?

Where do you boat? & what do you do?

Cat, tunnel, V, jet, outboard, v-drive, i/o, inboard

- what kind of propulsion are you partial to?


Uncle dave

Forget what these guys tell ya. They will all pretend to be your friend just so they can date your sister. If you want a boat that is fun & Fast buy this boat....
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o26343-en.html

Didn't he say he is a newbi? That boat is for an experienced capt. I love your boat but I really think it might just be a little much for a new pilot. and I do MEAN PILOT.

JMHO:drink:

Finally getting rid or the old girl Mike? Looks great my favorite colors but where's the speedo??

For your first, "performance" boat, I would suggest a single engine boat, all stock, 5000lbs or less, Stick with common brands, reason is if you get into it and find its not for you, you can resell without loosing your ass. I would suggest, 25 Baja Outlaw, 27 Fountain, 25 Checkmate, 25 Sonic, or a boat similar. Keep in mind, bigger boat means bigger everything, Tow vehicle, trailer, boat lift, marina fee's, gas, insurance, you get the idea. All of the above can be towed with a Tahoe or full size truck.

Will:evilb:

mostly lakes and rivers but occasional trips to the big pond

probably a V hull, with a small cuddy, I haven't seen many cats with cuddys until you get into the bigger boats, not sure what a tunnel is, deffinately want an i/o.

I really like that boat. I have looked at the ad numerous times. If it is still available when I get ready to pull the trigger, it will be on my short list.

I am looking for a stock boat to start. I like the single engine for now because of $. Less expense for me will mean more use and enjoyment of the boat. Less gas to buy and 1 motor and outdrive to maintain should make a big difference. I am leaning toward a 23-25 foot boat w/a 502mpi or a 496 HO and external steering. I have driven fountains, bajas, and scarabs, but I have no 1st experience with checkmate or sonic. Do they both make good boats? I am no snob, but reliabilty, quality construcion, as well as fit and finish are very important to me.

Say no more. Look for a nice Formula. There are plenty around, a nice 242 or 272 would fit the bill very well. Plenty of people to help you if you need it, great service & support from Formula (even on older models) and they hold their resale value.

More ideas here: http://www.bigbadboat.com/2009/02/th...-offshore.html

Good Link, TY. It made me feel like I'm on the right track.

Yes, Sonic and Checkmate both make nice boats. Both very different, example Sonic will be bigger/heavier built more for rough water. Checkmate, has a shallower (lessV in hull) makes boat faster, but rougher ride in rough water. 502 mpi and 496HO or Mag are all great motors, and I agree stay away from anything molested, their are so many jack ass mechanics that just phuck up motors not haveing a clue to what their doing, just so they can make a buck off a guy.

Some considerations, how much will you use cabin? Will you spend the night on the boat? Some other brands to consider, but may have a hard time to stay in your price range, Pantera, Active thunder, Formula. Just keep in mind the rarer a boat the harder it will be to resell. For your price range I would try to stay with a 1997-2001:evilb:

I may overnight occasionally, but the cabin just needs to be there so the wife can get out the elements for a few minutes at a time. I have been boating all of my life, but she is fairly new to it. I am stiill leaning toward the 23 SCS because I d don't think I'll outgrow the power too quickly, and I've been impressed with the scarabs I have been on in the past. I see a few checkmates for sale in my area but I have not had an opportunity to look at any of them yet. I am anxious to get a boat, but I will be patient and look until I find the right boat at the right price.

I appreciate everyones input so far. I have been lurking for quite some time, but just registered. This is a good board.

If you really like the 23 scs, take a look at Baja H2X, you can find a nice one in your price range.:evilb:

I really like some of the older boats, but after reading your 101 thread, I think I may spend more time modernizing and customizing a boat like that than using it. I love your work that I have seen on here. When I do end with a boat, I would not be surprised if it eventually spends a winter in Toledo. Somewhere in the future I expect to buy a bigger boat w/ twins, but for now I will mostly be boating in the TN/KY area. I feel a slightly smaller and faster single engine boat will be suitable to my needs and bankroll. Keep up your great work, you are very tallented. And keep the singles flowing at the dance accademy.

Here's a perfect comprimise. Its in your size range, has the twins you are lusting for, and will go like HELL! Buy it right, do some upgrades, and have an awesome river/pond boat that fly's, is way under your spending budget, and has reliable small blocks.


http://detroit.craigslist.org/boa/1265415234.html

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too much teak!

Here you go. Already updated for ya....plus it will handle alot bigger power and water when your ready!
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o29921-en.html

Saw that, nice combo, hard to find 242's with twins in a decent price range, I think for a smaller boat with a useable cabin the 242 is also great..I wanted one before I bought my 245 Chris Craft, but could not afford one then... now a tad cheaper

Not lusting for twins, My future will be better if I make the best decisions in the present. A single engine, low hours boat is best for me now. As I intend to take good care of it, it will have great resale value when I am ready to upgrade.

Those are really fun, and that's probably what I'd buy for his budget & criteria. :cool-smiley-026:

If you are willing to travel, here is a great boat for a first Performance boat, I bet it can be had for a great deal also
1995 Sunsation 25' w/trailer, stock motor, I bet 10K would take it!!

http://www.harrisonmarine.com/

Wow great find! Cool sight.