Scarab KV......interesting
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Scarab KV......interesting
Just thought I would share this story with the board and get some feed back. I came across a 1980 Scarab KV probably Larry smith model today. It is in a storage yard and it appears the guy that owns it hasn't paid his storage fee's in like 2 years! The owners of the storage facility are going to put a lean hold on it and sell it.
It's in pretty bad shape, neglect mostly from sitting out in the sun with just a cover on it, but it's not terrible. It's got TRS drives, external steering, looks to have 540's but theres water in both motors. Pretty new CMI Exhaust headers, but you can tell these motors havent been turned over in a few years....Theres rust forming on the pullys even! The cockpit is done, mold, and rot. The cabin is suprisingly in good shape. Didn't look to have any rot in the hull that we could hear or see. It has a newer paint scheme (newer like from the late 80's/early 90's) and is sitting on a semi nice trailer.
If this boat could be picked up for next to nothing like it looks like it can be what do you guys think it would cost to re-do the whole thing??
We have two new 540's and bravo's that we'll throw in it but what we'd like to do is stagger the motors tear the whole cockpit out and re-do/update it. then tear out the whole cabin to lighten like a factory race boat. Plus new paint.
How much? Bye the way, the boats name is "twist and shout" anyone ever heard of this boat?? It's currently white with the miami 80's style light blue and pink stripes down the sides. Any ideas??
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It's in pretty bad shape, neglect mostly from sitting out in the sun with just a cover on it, but it's not terrible. It's got TRS drives, external steering, looks to have 540's but theres water in both motors. Pretty new CMI Exhaust headers, but you can tell these motors havent been turned over in a few years....Theres rust forming on the pullys even! The cockpit is done, mold, and rot. The cabin is suprisingly in good shape. Didn't look to have any rot in the hull that we could hear or see. It has a newer paint scheme (newer like from the late 80's/early 90's) and is sitting on a semi nice trailer.
If this boat could be picked up for next to nothing like it looks like it can be what do you guys think it would cost to re-do the whole thing??
We have two new 540's and bravo's that we'll throw in it but what we'd like to do is stagger the motors tear the whole cockpit out and re-do/update it. then tear out the whole cabin to lighten like a factory race boat. Plus new paint.
How much? Bye the way, the boats name is "twist and shout" anyone ever heard of this boat?? It's currently white with the miami 80's style light blue and pink stripes down the sides. Any ideas??
Tank
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that is gonna be heavy!!!!!
the old flat deck 377 (1980 38' not sure if its the same as a KV) weighed in at about 9800lbs dry. SO they are heavy plu the old bottoms are slow.
It would however ride like a cadillac. If you did it right might be a very nice boat. Why woudl you want to bravos in it? Big power plus big heavy boat is goign to break bravos. Se if you can find some SSM3 drives. It is already set up for engiens with trannies. And SSM3 non crescent drievs ar epretty cheap now. You could most liely reuse the existing tranies and such.
Good Luck!!!
the old flat deck 377 (1980 38' not sure if its the same as a KV) weighed in at about 9800lbs dry. SO they are heavy plu the old bottoms are slow.
It would however ride like a cadillac. If you did it right might be a very nice boat. Why woudl you want to bravos in it? Big power plus big heavy boat is goign to break bravos. Se if you can find some SSM3 drives. It is already set up for engiens with trannies. And SSM3 non crescent drievs ar epretty cheap now. You could most liely reuse the existing tranies and such.
Good Luck!!!
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Yea, I figured it is going to be heavier than a mo-fo.
My friend has extra bravos and a gang of parts laying around his shop so he wants to put them in...........Though you have a good point #3's would be the way to go, he already has them on his scarab because he got sick of blowing bravos! We'll see what happens.
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My friend has extra bravos and a gang of parts laying around his shop so he wants to put them in...........Though you have a good point #3's would be the way to go, he already has them on his scarab because he got sick of blowing bravos! We'll see what happens.
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I'm thinking it's going to be well under 15k
But how much is it going to cost to gut this whole thing? If most of the work is done ourselves, except for the new paint and intererior. That we would have to bid out.
What do you think it's gonna cost to tear everything out, paint and intererior work, tear all the electrical out and start over pull the motors/drives seal up the transom tear out the whole cockpit put new updated dash and intererior in and tear out the cabin??
But how much is it going to cost to gut this whole thing? If most of the work is done ourselves, except for the new paint and intererior. That we would have to bid out.
What do you think it's gonna cost to tear everything out, paint and intererior work, tear all the electrical out and start over pull the motors/drives seal up the transom tear out the whole cockpit put new updated dash and intererior in and tear out the cabin??
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tank from whati've heard of projects like that whatever you guesstimate turns out to be double it and you should be right on for the final price.
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i did a similiar project, but everything was out already....to put in a custom interior, install the motors, redo wiring, gauges, panels....etc.........i would say 30k and thats being conservative. most of the $ will be in labor.
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I've done the same thing your talking about, Mine is a 1982 Scarab 38. I've replaced everything from stringers, bulkheads, cockpit, motors, cabin and I have a ton of money in it, even though I did the work myself. I can guarantee that the cabin stringer from the bulkhead under the dash to the second bulkhead back is rotten, and possibly more. Any questions give me a call. 734-625-0727. Todd