Anyone familiar with this scam??
 

I Get scamming emails all the time. Especially when selling stuff. I have had several people email that they want to but something I have on Ebay or Craig’s list but then when I get the payment it is a cashier’s check for double or triple the amount with a note that an error was made when their assistant went to the bank so take my amount plus an extra hundred for my time and then Western Union the difference.

I get this email and was skeptical but couldn't see where the catch was so I responded. I get another email back which explains the details but ends with I would like to talk to you but I am a deaf woman.

What is the scam?

First email.
Hello,
> I am Joy Bruce (CEO) by name and I manage a small
> moving/shipping business, I tend to operate at a high cost of
> operation and I want to cut down my expenses by employing someone in
> each city of US apart from Bothell, WA where I am, I need someone who
> will be getting mails in bulk and open the bulk mail and dispatch them
> in units to their final destinations in their respective states, for
> example, the cost of sending each mail is $36.00 by UPS and we want to
> send out 300 mails, that would be $10,800 which is too costly but we
> have a solution whereby, we ship the whole 300 mails in one package at
> the rate of $1,000 to you in your state and when you get it, you will
> open it and send the mail individually through USPS which will be $7
> to $10 each and you can see that we will have a saving. $1,000 for
> bulk shipping plus $10 for shipping individual mails which is $10
> times 300 making $3,000, so $1,000 plus $3,000, it will be $4,000, you
> can now deduct the $4,000 from the $10,800 that will have been our
> cost if we ship individually from the first time, you can see now that
> we have saved $6,800, so can you work as a mail dispatcher? If yes
> then please I need you to work for me on a part-time basis, and you
> will be paid $3,000 every month. You will be provided with funds to
> pay freight forwarder, you will be provided with funds to pay for US
> Postal Service to dispatch the individual mails to their final
> destinations upfront, you will be provided with up to $1,200 to $7,500
> as a running fund for dispatching the mails, sometimes, it may be
> packages of goods that you will be receiving and sometimes you may be
> required to pay for freight fees and shipping out of the funds we
> provide to you to pay another freight forwarder when we need the
> service of another freight forwarder, the items you will be re-mailing
> or shipping will include letters, laptops, small office printers,
> office materials, small office equipments, home theater, electronics
> and some other general consumer goods, I want to assure you that you
> will never use your own money for any expenses and you are not require
> to buy anything to begin the job, it is an open and straight forward
> job opportunity so please let me know if you are interested so that we
> can proceed forward, reply back by email for fast response, please do
> have a nice day.

Response.

Thank you so much for your interest in the job, this is not scam, the job will only take 4 to 5 hours of your time in a week and you can work whatever hours you want, the name of my Business is Buffaloes Shipping & Movers and I am located in Bothell, WA, the job is very simple once you have an address where you can accept mails and packages, and also have the time to re-mail the mails and packages through US Postal Service, sometime through some other freight forwarders, the mails and packages will contain gift cards, letters, office materials and office equipments, home theater, electronics and some other general consumer goods, you don't need any much space, they are packages you can put in your room, or in your garage. You will have to present an ID either driver's license or any other personal ID, all I wanted to ensure is that you have an ID to show to the delivery man when packages will be delivered to you and you have to show some sense of sincerity as you will be entrusted with clients mails, packages and funds to utilize for re-mailing expenses, please do let me know when you are ready to start and let me know if you have all the requirements needed for the job, you need to provide your information as well in order to proceed further, please let me have your names, contact address, phone numbers, age and your reason for taking up this job, and please note, you must be above 18 years of age to be eligible for this job, I want to assure you once again that you will never use your own money for any expenses. You are going to be employed as Associate Logistic Personnel and your employment is based on a 1099 status, your $3,000 salary will be paid through any means you wish and the re-mailing funds will be provided constantly which will never finish in order to avoid you spending your own money so when the re-mailing funds are low additional re-mailing funds will be provided, and you are not require to buy anything to begin the job, it is a straight forward job opportunity, please do let me know how we should proceed and you can get start immediately. I am a deaf woman I will have prefer we talk on phone, the phone number I gave you is with a relay program that automatically convert your voice message to a readable message that is why you will always be transfer to a voice mail when ever you are calling me.

no scam, they will provide the shipments and money......you'll just be distributing the DRUGS for them. :)

I was thinking maybe stuff from stolen credit cards.

When you/someone agrees to join her team, her next request will be to have your bank info, checking acct. number and trans routing number so that she can direct depost funds into your acct. However, at that point they will instead attempt to empty your checking acct. and then they will vanish.......poof, gone.

They are using UPS for some reason maybe to avoid federal charges using USPS?

Foward me the email address i want to play the game haha.
-Mike:lolhit:

I agree 100%. You will never get any packages.

Brad, PM me your bank info. Lets give it to her and see if that's the case!

They do not have a business license in Washington State, I checked both business name and owners name.

Baja Pete

I just recently got an email that is a slightly different version of exactly the same thing but from Regency Group Inc and they want me to be their "financial manager". They wire me money and then i send it back out in a different form. First I thought of money laundering but then dawned on me that becuase they wanted bank account info that it is a theft scam.

I told them I would love the job, all they had to do was provide me with their FEIN# so that I could verify who I would be getting a 1099 from.

Its to bad, the 5000 a month plus bonuses for 5 hours a week sounded pretty good:lolhit:

Thank for posting this cause I was surely about to go for it..Good thing I did a search first........

Thank you so much for your interest in the job, the job will only take
4 to 5 hours of your time in a week and you can work whatever hours
you want, the name of my Business is Buffaloes Shipping & Movers and I
am located in Bothell, WA, the job is very simple once you have an
address where you can accept mails and packages, and also have the
time to re-mail the mails and packages through US Postal Service,
sometime through some other freight forwarders, the mails and packages
will contain gift cards, letters, office materials and office
equipments, home theater, electronics and some other general consumer
goods, you don't need any much space, they are packages you can put in
your room, or in your garage. You will have to present an ID either
driver's license or any other personal ID, all I wanted to ensure is
that you have an ID to show to the delivery man when packages will be
delivered to you and you have to show some sense of sincerity as you
will be entrusted with clients mails, packages and funds to utilize
for re-mailing expenses, please do let me know when you are ready to
start and let me know if you have all the requirements needed for the
job, you need to provide your information as well in order to proceed
further, please let me have your names, contact address, phone
numbers, age and your reason for taking up this job, and please note,
you must be above 18 years of age to be eligible for this job, I want
to assure you once again that you will never use your own money for
any expenses. You are going to be employed as Associate Logistic
Personnel and your employment is based on a 1099 status, your $3,000
salary will be paid through any means you wish and the re-mailing
funds will be provided constantly which will never finish in order to
avoid you spending your own money so when the re-mailing funds are low
additional re-mailing funds will be provided, and you are not require
to buy anything to begin the job, it is a straight forward job
opportunity, please do let me know how we should proceed and you can
get start immediately. I am a deaf woman I will have prefer we talk on
phone, the phone number I gave you is with a relay program that
automatically convert your voice message to a readable message that is
why you will always be transfer to a voice mail when ever you are
calling me


Yours Faithfully.

Joy Bruce (CEO)
Buffaloes Shipping & Movers
224 Winesap Rd,
Bothell, WA 98012
Tel: 206-376-0946
Fax: 206-309-3550
E-mail: [email protected]

On 9/16/09, Tread <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello, I would every much like to work with you. Could you please send me
> what ever form and info. I'll need to get started?
>
>
>
> Thank you..
>

Sounds like a nigerian email scam derivative. Scumbags

I`m not exactly sure how, but the voice-relay, deaf thing has something to do with a scam. A few years ago a guy called the place I was working and ordered 12 fuel pumps for Chevy Suburbans. He used the voice-relay thing. He said he owned a taxi company in Canada and fuel pumps were too expensive there. Needless to say, he used a bad credit card and somehow got away with about $3000 in fuel pumps. The voice-relay phone number made it difficult to find him ...

Another variation of this scam- They make an offer to buy your car, boat, or widget but unfortunately made the cashier's check out for a larger amount of money. They will ask for you to go ahead and cash the check and send them the difference back by Western Union, wire transfer, or any method. Here's the catch- the cashier's check is forged with a real account number on it, problem is the account number belongs to someone else. Example cashier's check says Wachovia Bank for Acme Boats but the routing numbers belong to McDonalds, FedEx or some other large company. You cash the check, send the over payment to the buyer (crook), by the time McDonalds and the bank catch on to the program the crook is long gone with your boat and your cash.

Couple of years ago I had someone try this when I had a Camaro for sale. I asked the joker if "this" ever works- he flat out told me yes, enough people fall for it for me to make a living.

Southwest Florida has had major problems with a ring of crooks printing their own payroll checks and cleaning up. The scumbags buy blank checks at Office Depot, print payroll checks for all of their buddies and spend the day driving around town cashing payroll checks at Walmart, Supermarkets, etc..

And they want to outlaw assault rifles?? Aaaaggghhhhh :eek:

Rick

Newest message from them.
Please let me have your names, contact address, phone numbers, age and your reason for taking up this job so that we can proceed accordingly....

any suggestions? do we play it out? I'm a little bored!:evilb:

PLEASE PLEASE , tell me your kidding . Are there really people out there falling for these type things?
I cannot believe this is still a lucrative busininess for these pieces of ****........

I went through this about a month ago. Out of the blue a check drawn on a University of Alabama account for $3100 arrives at my door, unexpected, after my response to one of these e-mails. They want me to send back.(.ding, ding, ding,... my mental alarm is going off that this does not make any sense,... ) money that I do not use for office supplies for a USA based collection company. I try to contact the sender of the check, since a name and a phone number from Tenessee were on the FedEx shipping information.

Let's review, a check from Alabama, sender from Tenessee and the initial e-mail from a person who is in another country who wants me to do collection work for them here in the USA (I am an attorney).

The phone number for the sender's message box is full, there is not a message when you call (no name). I reply by e-mail, that I do NOT want this check, NOR did I give permission for a $3100 check to be sent to me. I refuse to cash the check.

I get a message that the authorities will be in contact with me for misappropriating company funds (what f*cking company funds was my reaction); so I call the local police department, give them a copy of the e-mail messages, and the check. One hour later after they investigate, it is a scam. Like an earlier post, once they get your bank account information then the scam is successful.

The night I came home from vacation this $3100 check was sitting on my doorstep in the Fed Ex envelope. Once I opened the envelope and saw the check I had thought it was a retainer for a new client, and or maybe I just forgot that I had spoken with a potential client about a case, but once I started reviewing the e-mails (that I did not open while on vacation) I soon realized that this was trouble. It was not the $3100 windfall, it was nothing but trouble, and I am glad I had the police got involved.

Stop f*cking around twith these scumbags, call the police, give them copies of all e-mail correspondence. That is what I did.

I have zero patience for this type of nonsense were there are victims to these scams. Gino, you will not be a victim , nor will I, but there is someone out there who will be a victim, it is inevitable.

I got a couple of those for some large ticket items i was selling, sent me a check for more than the item and then asked i send them half the difference back, like I am some kind of an idiot, played with them for a while just to waste there time and ended up giving it to the bank that the check was supposedly drawn from, they had hundreds of these fake checks from that person. Contact the banks fraud department and save all the e-mail details and forward it to them, better to help shut them down and save some poor bastard down the road.

I always f*ck with them. For instance, if I had a red Corvette for sale, and get an email from them saying they'd like to buy my "item" I always respond with something like, so your interested in buying my Ford Tractor, correct? They're so stupid they dont even know what they are responding to.

Good one about the tractor.
On the next one that contacts me, I'm going to say : "So you are interested in buying my aunts used mattress and dildo, correct ?"

:drink:

this scam
 

i also fell upon this email and it sounded to good to be true, i recieved a check for $2400 today in my name and it is an actual check

I have not took it to the bank to cash it yet

After seeing this I informed her I would cash it at walmart as I only do business with cash and no banks

Why did I recieve an overnite check and she said that everything is fine?

This seems legit

someone please email me with information

[email protected]

First post??? WTF.......???

I wanted to see what info I could get. I know it's a scam, I would like to know what it is. Even if they have your bank info, How can they empty it? All your bank info is on every check you write. I just wonder if it's stolen merchendise or will they try to get cash some way.

If I`m bored I f#ck with them. It can be real fun.

I replied that my name was Chuck Norris and asked them if they really wanted to buy a "55 gallon drum of whoop a$$".

Several emails were exchanged. It always gave me a laugh to open an email and see "Dear Chuck".

I gave them the address to the local police department, to send my cashier`s check to. I haven`t heard from them since.

You know why they do that, cause some people are just that stupid.

How far do you want to go ???

Set up a new account and put $20 in it and give them that info

Talk to your bank and see if they will play along (Don't want overdraft fees) If i got one and had the time i would play it out and if the originator was in the states i would send over who ever was closest from this site to say hi and tell them they are Gino

But that is just me :)

I don't know how they get the cash once they do get your banking information, I am not educated in that end of how this scam operates. Open a dummy account like boatme suggests, this could get interesting, and we might all learn something...How bored are you? If you have the time, go for it.

I think I have their I.P. address - 208.73.210.27 [:25:]

That is at least what the daemon sent back to me ;)

I decided I wanted to do a bit of investigating - So there you go!

Oh and Hi everyone!

ETA:

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That is at least my findings within 5 Mins of doing some legwork! :)

I enjoy playing with them. The scam I got was from a dating website. This girl really wants to meet me but, she is out of the U.S. and currently in Nigeria buying items for her import business. She tells me that she wants to marry me and have children right away. If you know me, that will make me run faster than being scammed. She has her items in Customs and is short $550 to pay for the shipping. She also has a $24,000 check but can't get it cashed there. She(who ever) wanted me to send the money either MoneyGram or Western Union to the hotel manager named Enny Felix. I play along. I offer to wire-transfer the money(yeah right) to an account. She declines that offer. I tell her to set up an account there, wait a day, pull the cash out, and close the account. She says that she can't. I say that I won't send any money unless its a wire transfer. She comes back with she will send me the check for $24,000 as collateral if I send the $550. I say that I have to be in Nigeria at the beginning of next week for a meeting, I ask what hotel she is staying at, and that I will handle all transactions in person. The emails have made an abrupt stop.

I am sure there is a few stupid saps out there that have already sent these people money on this stupid scam.