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Pure Energy 09-30-2009 04:30 PM

Here's a 32 not doing so good!! Funny, this video is in the same place as mine.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaOEcJWL4-4[/YOUTUBE]

Pure Energy 09-30-2009 04:31 PM

After a day at Claudio's, it can be a loooooooong ride back to Conneticut!!

Indy 09-30-2009 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by Pure Energy (Post 2963790)
Great videos!!! That kind of water I maybe see twice a season and would only go out in it for a short thrill, or come into it in certain sections of the Hudson River.

This is the type of wind chop that is no problem for my Y2K. Any bigger and it becomes more demanding. This again is more extreme to what I normally boat in.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTiJJx5oKDg

Finally someone who knows how to shoot a vid without all the wind noise. Nice to hear the engine for a change. Good job!

Indy 09-30-2009 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by Pure Energy (Post 2963810)
After a day at Claudio's, it can be a loooooooong ride back to Conneticut!!

No kidding...try the haul all the way down to Norwalk :eek: LOL...Plum Gut...that can be one nasty stretch. I've been though it when it was like glass, been through it like the vid you posted, those look like some decent waves.

onesickpantera 09-30-2009 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Indy (Post 2963812)
Finally someone who knows how to shoot a vid without all the wind noise. Nice to hear the engine for a change. Good job!

I have to agree great vid! But how did you get rid of the wind noise? I tried tape, putty, etc over my mic and still got a ton of wind noise.

Pure Energy 09-30-2009 04:44 PM

I bought a separate mic that plugs into the camcorder and taped it under the canopy

onesickpantera 09-30-2009 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by Pure Energy (Post 2963822)
I bought a separate mic that plugs into the camcorder and taped it under the canopy

NICE! Is it an actual camcorder or a mini/sports type camcorder?

Pure Energy 09-30-2009 05:01 PM

Regular camcorder ductaped to the canoy

TeamSaris 09-30-2009 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by Pure Energy (Post 2963808)
Here's a 32 not doing so good!! Funny, this video is in the same place as mine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaOEcJWL4-4

RUn it faster and on top and you would love it

Superbabi 09-30-2009 05:35 PM

Nice Y2K Videos , makes me want to run the snot out:grinser010: of my Y2K !!!!

AIR TIME 09-30-2009 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by onesickpantera (Post 2963594)
So, just to be clear, a 28 Skater can run better than this in the rough?

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yep been there in a 30 spectra with tripp 2.5s doing 90 in a pokerrun with 3 to 5s. boat flew even once in a while a outside prop would land 1st and push the boat around. but it never hit hard like some 32 hustlers I have been in or other 28 to 32 footers. cats land soft even 24 skaters we jump a wake from a big sf one afternoon well a few, I was oh **** we hit flew over and came down with ease.

AIR TIME 09-30-2009 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by Pure Energy (Post 2963808)
Here's a 32 not doing so good!! Funny, this video is in the same place as mine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaOEcJWL4-4

thats a LOT BIGGER WATER:rolleyes::rolleyes:

onesickpantera 09-30-2009 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by AIR TIME (Post 2963891)
yep been there in a 30 spectra with tripp 2.5s doing 90 in a pokerrun with 3 to 5s. boat flew even once in a while a outside prop would land 1st and push the boat around. but it never hit hard like some 32 hustlers I have been in or other 28 to 32 footers. cats land soft even 24 skaters we jump a wake from a big sf one afternoon well a few, I was oh **** we hit flew over and came down with ease.

Not saying it can't but I'd love to see a video. Tons of videos out there of 28-30 Vs in spread out 3-4s but I can't find any videos of under 30' cats doing it.

Even back when good offshore racing was on TV (2002 if I remember correctly) there were a couple races that had some big water(Cape Cod?) and I never saw a under 30 cat run like the Factory One guys.

Todd Hartigh 09-30-2009 07:57 PM

Find some vids of the Great Lakes Silver Cup Series. There were several races with the 28 cat can doo and everyone else in there class tearing up some ruff seas.

Pure Energy 09-30-2009 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by AIR TIME (Post 2963891)
thats a LOT BIGGER WATER:rolleyes::rolleyes:

That's the kind of water that makes your mouth dry and your heart pound!

Pure Energy 09-30-2009 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by Superbabi (Post 2963858)
Nice Y2K Videos , makes me want to run the snot out:grinser010: of my Y2K !!!!

I thought you might appreciate!!

007joe 09-30-2009 08:32 PM

This was a great thread and something I was curious about too....
But it seems the answer to the question is a definite maybe, with these 28 skaters in rough water, right?

offshoresteve 09-30-2009 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by Pure Energy (Post 2963822)
I bought a separate mic that plugs into the camcorder and taped it under the canopy

Now thats the Best idea I have heard this week !! Thanks

dreamboater 09-30-2009 09:06 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teav2iUptpU

Secret Agent 28 Skater. Hard to tell but I would guess 1-2'

Austin 10-01-2009 08:24 AM

The Secret Agent video and the Pantera video show totally different water conditions. We're talking "calm" in the Secret Agent and "moderate" in the Pantera video- "rough" is something you would't want to go out in.

dreamboater 10-01-2009 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by Austin (Post 2964144)
The Secret Agent video and the Pantera video show totally different water conditions. We're talking "calm" in the Secret Agent and "moderate" in the Pantera video- "rough" is something you would't want to go out in.

I agree. I posted that to show the boat running in mixed conditions. A 28 can be a handful in choppy, confused water. They can be a handful in calm water when running over big cruiser waves...they are just extremely light boats.

However, I would guess the Skater is running 110 or so where as the Pantera is running what????? Wonder if the the Skater could run 70 or 80 in the same water the Pantera is running in?

Stormrider 10-01-2009 09:16 AM

All this talk about rough water... the same old chit.
It's all subjective.
IMO, secret agent is CALM.
Superboat, just enough chop to air out the hull, still relatively calm.
32 Skater through Plum Gut... rough. I'd like to see him turn around and run it into the waves (3-4ft to me.)
The pantera airing it out is tougher to judge, with it being from a chopper. But w/ the boats attitude, looks like 3s, but more spread out.

I'd like to see a 30ft cat running in 3-4s. I think its done, just probably scares the piss outta those that aren't used to running like that.

AIR TIME 10-01-2009 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by onesickpantera (Post 2963950)
Not saying it can't but I'd love to see a video. Tons of videos out there of 28-30 Vs in spread out 3-4s but I can't find any videos of under 30' cats doing it.

Even back when good offshore racing was on TV (2002 if I remember correctly) there were a couple races that had some big water(Cape Cod?) and I never saw a under 30 cat run like the Factory One guys.

I was in the 1st race on the cape and the top classes were only running 64mph that day waves were a lot bigger than 3 or 4 ft f1 was running in the 40s with p5,4,3, f1, 6ft plus lot of boats got broken up in all classes:eek:, and 2yrs later I was out there in a 32 sutphen to watch but it got canceled, then the next yr they ran that was it it was 4 to 5s thats when the turbine ol spun out in px1 or p1 there were never a lot of cats inthose races I have the tapes from FF. WISH i HAD THE ONE FROM THE POKERRUN in the 30 spectra we started 20mins late and got up to everyone 3rd stop caught the slower boats going to the 2nd stop. best ride is a 46 skater been in 5 to 6s going to block floating along at 80 cause of the crew being girls from teens to 63 haha otherwise it would of been quicker.

OL40SVX 10-01-2009 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by Pure Energy (Post 2963808)
Here's a 32 not doing so good!! Funny, this video is in the same place as mine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaOEcJWL4-4

Looks like Hugh was not on the sticks going through Plum Gut in his 32 Skater!!
but you have to really respect what you do with a "cat" in a following sea, unlike a deep vee!!
a 28 Skater just isn't a big enough cat on LIS unless you really pick your days!!


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