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baja27 10-12-2009 07:18 PM

42 outer & 38 PP
 
I would like to hear your opinions between these two boats
42 Outerlimits with 900'S and 6's
38 Powerplay with 675 KE and Imco drives
both are the same year.
Also the 900's have solid roller cams which is beat.

Style of boating is cruising around with the family and some poker runs.Do a lot of raft ups/ swimming. Looking for most comfort, handling, and ride in the rough, speed is last on the list. Of course it's cool to go 100mph once in a while.

OL40SVX 10-12-2009 08:57 PM

Outerlimits baby!!:D:D Go for the 6's!

BenPerfected 10-12-2009 09:01 PM

Both are nice boats. Maybe take your family and go with the vote!...do as I say, not as I do!

cowisl 10-12-2009 09:15 PM

Both great boats. Both will have the same rough water capability. My favorite all time v bottoms as far as looks go. Take a ride in each and then go from there. We love our 38.

cowisl 10-12-2009 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by fountain40icbm (Post 2971832)
Outerlimits baby!!:D:D Go for the 6's!

6's are sweet when the motors run! There is a lot to be said for a boat that is "turn key"

OL40SVX 10-12-2009 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by cowisl (Post 2971846)
6's are sweet when the motors run! There is a lot to be said for a boat that is "turn key"

This is true but those 675 KE's weren't the best motor out there either. Good seeing you this weekend.

Jupiter Sunsation 10-13-2009 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by baja27 (Post 2971747)
I would like to hear your opinions between these two boats
42 Outerlimits with 900'S and 6's
38 Powerplay with 675 KE and Imco drives
both are the same year.
Also the 900's have solid roller cams which is beat.

Style of boating is cruising around with the family and some poker runs.Do a lot of raft ups/ swimming. Looking for most comfort, handling, and ride in the rough, speed is last on the list. Of course it's cool to go 100mph once in a while.


That Powerplay won't hit 100 with those engines/drives....

Powerplay is a very basic boat compared to the OL but also one of 11/12 boats out there.

Jassman 10-13-2009 08:09 AM

Both beautiful boats. Both very large boats in their segments. The 37 OL is about the same size as the 38 PP. Can be bought for less cause they are older, a few in the classifieds and I know of one that is not listed and is extremely nice with 500's for a very reasonable price. There is one 37 OL that is a 02 model with 900's and #6 drives for around 229k. It is out west, and appears to be a 10.... Everything negotiable. If it is the PP that I'm thinking of, it is a very nice boat as well, and the owner took extremely good care of it. I had 675's in Radio Active.. had a few problems , but they got resolved, and motor ran fine. I'm not a bravo lover by any means, so that is the ONLY weak link on that boat. As to the 42 OL, has big power, which requires more maintenance and quicker rebuilds between intervals. You have 2 great choice's, Both beautiful boats, and I would be proud to own either..

Sydwayz 10-13-2009 08:26 AM

Is Robbie's PP for sale?

customryder 10-13-2009 08:50 AM

Keep looking if you want turn key boating... nothing worse than playing weekend boat mechanic.... it really takes all the fun out of it..

Just my 02 cts.:drink:

animalhouse 10-13-2009 10:17 AM

Give me a call at the factory, 401-253-7300 ext 105. I know of some really nice 42's out there that might be a solution for you. If you like 900's, the 42 is a great boat, huge cabin, solid in rough water, but still fun to drive in the flat water. You also can't beat the # 6's either. You can also run those 900's and when rebuild time comes around turn them down a bit to gain more longevity.

PARADISE ISLAND 10-13-2009 05:17 PM

OL with#6's

johnnyboatman 10-13-2009 07:43 PM

no comparison outterlimits w#6s, or pp w/imcos whats the diff in price

pm203 10-13-2009 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by customryder (Post 2972022)
Keep looking if you want turn key boating... nothing worse than playing weekend boat mechanic.... it really takes all the fun out of it..

Just my 02 cts.:drink:

That's right, especially if speed is not that important to you.

baja27 10-14-2009 10:05 AM

Speed does have a factor, I do want to be able to go 90mph. It's not all about speed because how often can you go flat out.

AIR TIME 10-14-2009 10:18 AM

a lot of wide open where I am:evilb:, I would call the OL, and see what they know of whats out there. even stock boats break down and if the 900s need the upper redone then spend 2500 each and make it a hyd roller if you boat 70hours or more a season. if not keep it solid roller and adjust it every spring. the boat with sixes yes, otherwise you will be down with a 675hp boat with bravos doing drive rebuilds, and coupler replacements:eek:. art

Pro1 10-14-2009 02:34 PM

Offer $60,000 on this Outerlimits.

http://yachtauctions.com/listing.php?vessel=3979

animalhouse 10-14-2009 02:54 PM

Another educated post from Pro 1. I'd love to see what any other 11 year old boat with half a motor and that has been sitting around for a while would bring on the Market The original sale price on that boat in 1998 was less than 250, 000. So in 11 years that is far above average depreciation. Offer 60, put another 50+ into making it whole, and you are at 110K +, or you can buy a complete running 37 for the same price. Either way I would say that the Outerlimits is in line or ahead of the industry for value retention. Clearly you have an agenda and that has blurred your sense of reality.

Pro1 10-14-2009 03:56 PM

Outerlimits is a nice boat.

animalhouse 10-14-2009 04:08 PM

The boat was traded from it's original owner, then sold to another gentleman who raced it for a season, and won a world championship. He then re powered it, updated the cockpit and interior.

Jassman 03-02-2010 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by baja27 (Post 2971747)
I would like to hear your opinions between these two boats
42 Outerlimits with 900'S and 6's
38 Powerplay with 675 KE and Imco drives
both are the same year.
Also the 900's have solid roller cams which is beat.

Style of boating is cruising around with the family and some poker runs.Do a lot of raft ups/ swimming. Looking for most comfort, handling, and ride in the rough, speed is last on the list. Of course it's cool to go 100mph once in a while.

BAJA 27 ... WHAT DID YOU END UP GETTING..

animalhouse 03-02-2010 09:46 AM

smarty,

I don't know if this response is ****ty enough for you, but I'll give it a try. The response that I wrote and you commented about was directed to the constant negetive posts regarding one person, and not the general public. That person has an agenda and feels the need to post negatively even when the topic he is refering to isn't reletive. In particular the question of resale values was brought to the table, it is the opinion of one member here that OL is the only boat company to suffer from a difficult used boat market. Every manufacturer has been subject to the same market conditions, and we are all dealing with it in a different manner.

I would object and say that OL has an advantage due to the small number of used boats on the market versus some of the other brands out there. I would also say that by introducing a completely new product line OL has taken steps to ensure that the new boats are not competeing with the used boats, and in turn is helping both new boat sales and the value of used boats by reducing the number of units on the street.

Panther 03-02-2010 10:07 AM

Trying to help a friend sell his 51' if anyone knows anyone looking..... If anyone needs info feel free to contact me and if calling please say I referred you. http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o32836-en.html

baja27 03-02-2010 10:49 AM

Jeff As of now nothing yet, I just might kept my PP for one more year until business gets stronger.

Smarty 03-02-2010 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by animalhouse (Post 3058275)
smarty,

I don't know if this response is ****ty enough for you, but I'll give it a try. The response that I wrote and you commented about was directed to the constant negetive posts regarding one person, and not the general public. That person has an agenda and feels the need to post negatively even when the topic he is refering to isn't reletive. In particular the question of resale values was brought to the table, it is the opinion of one member here that OL is the only boat company to suffer from a difficult used boat market. Every manufacturer has been subject to the same market conditions, and we are all dealing with it in a different manner.

I would object and say that OL has an advantage due to the small number of used boats on the market versus some of the other brands out there. I would also say that by introducing a completely new product line OL has taken steps to ensure that the new boats are not competeing with the used boats, and in turn is helping both new boat sales and the value of used boats by reducing the number of units on the street.

I agree in part, and I understand your position. I disagree with respect to helping the value of the OL used boats. Since a new design is sold with the new boats every used boat is dated and not up to date in comparison to a new OL. This certainly helps new boat sales, and does make a once unafforadble dream boat (a used OL I am referring to here) for some, now affordable. From my perspective it is great marketing, unless I have a two or three year old OL and newly designed boat of same or similar size has just enetered the market from your company.


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