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panteraman28 04-09-2002 09:46 PM

pantera boats
 
Linda where is the 18000.00 dollars youve owed me since December, ive herd all the your check is coming , I will call you on monday, tuesday and so on and so forth. I have been a loyal supporter of your product for 8 years, and it is time you treat me like that! This is not meant to bad mouth the company , they make a great product! I would buy another again and again, just live up to the deal we made!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Griff 04-10-2002 12:58 AM

I guess I'm kinda wonderin, why would YOU give them $18000 if it was more money than what you agreed upon??????? :confused: :confused: :confused:

Also, I agree with Troutly. If you don't want to bad mouth a company then why are you????

Red Stripe 04-10-2002 01:56 AM


Originally posted by Griff
I guess I'm kinda wonderin, why would YOU give them $18000 if it was more money than what you agreed upon??????? :confused: :confused: :confused:
Um Yeah!!:confused: :confused: :D :D

JO - PANTERABOATS 04-10-2002 09:22 AM

Hi Jeff,


You know very well what the problem has been.

#1 It is not $ 18,000 it is $ 10,000 since I have here two returned checks from you in the amount of $ 8,000.

# 2 You misrepresented your trade in boat as excellent condition and it was not.I told you that we had to sell the boat to pay it off.I told you 2 weeks ago that we just sold the boat after we had to go thru it.

# 3 I spoke to you last Friday, and to your bank that is holding the title to the boat and told them I would be sending in my $ 10,000 this week.

#4 Jeff, I think it is unapropriate that you misinformed the members of this board to put pressure on me specially since you have JO Cell # and he has always treated you like a brother and so has my family.

The bottom line it will be taken care of this week directly with your bank and you will have to complete the pay off on the loan.

Regards, Linda at Panteraboats

ScreaminDemon 04-10-2002 09:40 AM

Jo and Linda - Great to see a "professional" response to this issue. in my opinion, anyone who is serious about purchasing a boat from you people, i believe this will not hurt you!

panteraman28 04-10-2002 10:24 AM

This in no means was to bash your company like i stated in my thread, but after 4 months of hearing nothing but oh your trade in pay off is coming next week the times you have promised to call me and have not, you have called my bank, how many times? Im sick and tired of paying on two boats. I also think you should leave JO out of this JO is my friend and always will be, Look at it from my view point you should have taken care of this when I was down there, and I also bought your boat site unseen. And for the people that responded to my thread I still am a supporter of the product, and this was my last resort in getting my pay off, I have tried and tried what would any of you do , just continue to pay on two boats? and if you sold the boat 2 weeks ago where is the 10,000 dollars??????????????????????? you admit you owe me the 10,000 of the 18000 ,but selling the boat to pay me was not part of the deal and was not on the purchase order . I said all i have to say on this matter, and it hurt me deeply that I had to go to this extreme, to receive the money that you CLEARLY ADMIT YOU OWE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shorty 04-10-2002 10:45 AM

What would I do?
 
I had a similiar experience with a dealer paying off a trade. After 3 months of calls from the bank, I called a lawyer. Problems solved that day.

djm 04-10-2002 10:59 AM

I was really pissed off one day and bashed my dealer on another board, that was a mistake and it got me nowhere. So now it's in court, still not over but it's the right was to publicize it.

Porkcp4102 04-11-2002 08:34 AM

panteraman28:
 
Hope your "deal" was written.

Playn 04-11-2002 08:40 PM

If the original post was not meant to "bash" the company, then why was it even posted in this forum to start with? This forum isn't the offical way of contacting boat companies or suppliers.

h2owarrior 04-11-2002 09:28 PM

Hey playn, I agree with you but I bet this was cheaper than a lawyer:D

panteraman28 04-11-2002 11:40 PM

I guess there is alot of people on this site with gobbs of money, that can aford to pay on two boats, if thats the case then why dont you make one of the payments for me! This deal has stopped me from being able to buy a house, and expand my buisness until it has been cleared up, and im sick and tired of being lied to every week for the last four months. All most of you guys want to hear are only the good things about the boating world, well welcome to the real world, the harsh world of reality, not everything in the boating world is wonderful, this is a forum where these things should be brought out in the open so the dont keep happening, and further more Im sure if somthing like this happened to one of you you would be the first one to cry! Again im not bashing the product, it is a good boat, and i only wish JO success, on selling boats, and i will always stand behind JO and his product, and i would help him in any way I could, if he called me tomrrow and said he neede my help I would be there in a heartbeat, I just dont appeciate the the way Linda has jacked me on this deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Playn 04-12-2002 09:47 AM

WRONG Pantaraman28, YOU are missing the point. The point being that people don't need to come on these forums and start out by stating "Hey so and so, where's my money". You would have had alot better support and response if you would have used the forum to say "I'm having some problems receiving responses from so and so, does anyone know them or have any other means of contacting them so I can get my issue resolved".

Jassman 04-12-2002 10:15 AM

PLAYN, THATS YOUR POINT OF VIEW, AND OBVIOUSLY PANTERA28 IS ENTITLED TO HIS, THATS WHAT THIS BOARD IS ABOUT, I PERSONALLY WOULD HAVE HANDLED IT DIFFERENTLY, BUT THERE IS SOME FRAUSTRATION ON HIS END AND HE IS LOOKING FOR A RESOLVE, AND THAT WAS THE BEST WAY HE SAW FIT TO GET RID OF HIS PROBLEM, WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT (THANK GOD) AND CHOOSE TO USE THIS BOARD IN DIFFERNT MANNERISMS. TAKE CARE:)

Playn 04-12-2002 10:36 AM

JASSMAN, I still don't believe this is the appropriate place to make contact with companies you are experiencing a problem with. Rather, if the problem is serious enough (which I certainly belive Panteraman28's is or was) I would be trying to resolve it with other more official means than calling someone out in a public forum. Your right though, we're all different and to each his own.

I don't want to come off as unsymathetic to his problem (I'm not), I hope it gets resolved quickly to his satisfaction. I was just taking issue with the means he was using here on OSO.;)

Jassman 04-12-2002 10:50 AM

HEY, I RESPECT ALL FOUR OF OUR OPINIONS:D SOMETIMES FRAUSTRATION GETS THE BEST OF US AND WE ACT BEFORE WE THINK, I KNOW I'VE HONESTLY DONE IT, THE SITUATION LOOKS LIKE IT GOT RESOLVED, HE LOVES HIS BOAT, (HOW COULD HE NOT, ITS A PANTERA) AND STILL IS FRIENDS WITH JOE, NOW LINDA ON THE HAND MIGHT BE A LITTLE PISSED, BUT THERE ARE ALWAYS TOO SIDES TO THE STORY, IM JUST HAPPY IT WORKED OUT FOR EVERYONE, LIFES TOO SHORT, ENJOY IT, I KNOW BOATING SURE HELPS ME RELAX.:D HAVE A GOOD DAY EVERYONE :)

Jassman 04-12-2002 03:05 PM

I wiLl TrY hArDeR nExT tImE, see, Im allready half way there:D

Playn 04-12-2002 03:37 PM


Originally posted by Too Old
Not taling sides but consider this. Problems like this need to be resolved in private by the parties involved. And perhaps that was tried, I really don't know.

But if we keep using the forum to get a manufacturers "attention", we are going to loose the participation or a lot of manufacturers, dealers and suppliers. That would be too bad. As it stands, there are a bunch of really knwledgeable folks we can get expert input from. I suspect more than a few of them are rethinking their invilvment in the forums.

Again, I don't have a clue about this situation. All I am saying is this type of post should be a last resort and then it should be used as a warning to other forum members.

Ditto

panteraman28 04-15-2002 10:22 AM

Linda you talk about me. another week, another lie


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