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bert4332 11-16-2009 11:29 PM

Maintenance with a Whipple
 
If you put a Whipple on a 502 with say 300hours on it, intending on running it medium, not killing all the time, but having fun once in a while, how does that affect maintenance and maintenance intervals?

thanx

Griff 11-17-2009 01:04 AM

What kind of maintenance are you talking about????

Oil changes should be done every 25-30 hours and probably spark plugs once a year. Change the blower lube every 25-30hrs as well for added protection.

Racerngr1 11-17-2009 02:12 AM

I would think you would want to do the drive lube at the same time you do the oil changes too.

Rattlesnake Jake 11-17-2009 05:27 AM

If you just bolt it on without doing MAJOR head work you're asking for trouble. Is it EFI??

Cat & Mice 11-17-2009 10:59 AM

I put a Whipple on my 502 back in 1999. I put about 150hrs on it and never had an issue. I changed the oil in the spring and once during the season. the guy that bought it from me put over 500hrs on it and never did anything but oil changes.

It had a bravo 1 with no issues. It was a Eliminator 28 Eagle V.

I didn't change anything on my heads either. Can't imagine why not doing anything to your heads would make it more of a problem?

MP

animalhouse 11-17-2009 11:14 AM

We installed a pair of whipple chargers on otherwise stock merc. 525's, and ran very hard. Never had any issues to speak of. Maintenance should be top priority, oil changes, and supercharger oil changes are very important, as well as checking valve lash.

If you don't perform maintenance, you will be performing repairs, but that goes for anything.

Rattlesnake Jake 11-17-2009 11:20 AM

How much Boost did you run??
650 Hours on a SC engine with no issues is pure luck, or it wasn't run HARD.

Neverfastenuf 11-17-2009 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by Cat & Mice (Post 2991655)
I put a Whipple on my 502 back in 1999. I put about 150hrs on it and never had an issue. I changed the oil in the spring and once during the season. the guy that bought it from me put over 500hrs on it and never did anything but oil changes.

It had a bravo 1 with no issues. It was a Eliminator 28 Eagle V.

I didn't change anything on my heads either. Can't imagine why not doing anything to your heads would make it more of a problem?

MP

Mike, how goes it???? How is Todd Kelson??? Have not heard anything about you guys in years now. Like you dropped off the boating radar screen.

Sam

BLee 11-17-2009 12:02 PM

You'll be better off with the Whipple, than if you installed a "roots" blower. The Whipples are much more efficient, and much easier on the engine than the blowers of "old". Doing head work isn't completely necessary, unless you're wanting to really turn it up. I would probably have the heads redone just for piece of mind if it were my boat. Make sure you have a good tune, and good timing as well.

You should see a HELL of a difference!

Cat & Mice 11-17-2009 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by Rattlesnake Jake (Post 2991667)
How much Boost did you run??
650 Hours on a SC engine with no issues is pure luck, or it wasn't run HARD.

It was whatever Whipple recommended, I can't remember what is was.

And I meant to say it had over 500hrs on it not 150 plus 500, sorry.

I think it may have ended up with almost 600hrs though.

Cat & Mice 11-17-2009 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by Neverfastenuf (Post 2991677)
Mike, how goes it???? How is Todd Kelson??? Have not heard anything about you guys in years now. Like you dropped off the boating radar screen.

Sam

Sam, Its going pretty good. You know, living the dream!!

I was going to build another boat but things slowed down and kind of changed my plans. I built a motor but never put it in anything. So now I am trying to sell the motor, its a 1000hp Whippled Teague 509.. I have been around boating a little this last couple years. Mostly Powell or Havasu with friends. It's nice to have buddy's with boats :-) That being said I sure miss owning my own. I dream about my next boat a lot.


Todd is god but has not had a boat for awhile either. He gets down to Powell sometimes though. Todd's brother Wade moved to Havasu so at least we have a cheap place to stay now.

How the heck have you been?

MP

Neverfastenuf 11-17-2009 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by Cat & Mice (Post 2991697)
Sam, Its going pretty good. You know, living the dream!!

I was going to build another boat but things slowed down and kind of changed my plans. I built a motor but never put it in anything. So now I am trying to sell the motor, its a 1000hp Whippled Teague 509.. I have been around boating a little this last couple years. Mostly Powell or Havasu with friends. It's nice to have buddy's with boats :-) That being said I sure miss owning my own. I dream about my next boat a lot.


Todd is god but has not had a boat for awhile either. He gets down to Powell sometimes though. Todd's brother Wade moved to Havasu so at least we have a cheap place to stay now.

How the heck have you been?

MP

Mike, great to hear things are well for you. We have been extremely well, thanks. Business has been better than ever.

I am in snowmobile mode now. Have a couple of turbo sleds we are dialing right now and another being built. Boating has not really been a priority lately either for us. Did not even get the boat wet this year. A shame, i know. Way too many other activities.

Sam

bert4332 11-17-2009 11:24 PM

Well I was trying to determine if there was substantial costs and engine wear by adding one. For example if I just refreshed a 500 efi with 300 hrs and added a whipple would that cut the life of my engine? Would I need another refresh a lot sooner than if I did not have the SC? It seems from the feedback received that normal maintenance is really all that is needed, that surprised me, what then is the disadvantages of having one? It seems to me zeroing in a proper prop and a whipple are the two most economical ways to increase performance.

thanx


SkiDoc 11-18-2009 05:28 AM

It would require more maintainence than without the SC. You will putting more stress on all the rotating components, they will wear faster. How much faster depends on how the engine is run. Giving you a number of how long is a flat out guess. With that being said, with E.F.I management of detonation and A/F ratios reasonably good longevity is the norm not the exception. I think this is the most efficient way to get that kind of usuable, reliable marine HP. Just look at the offered packages from Merc. and other builders.


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