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Lauderdaleboats 12-10-2009 08:11 PM

Opinion on a black boat
 
We're in the process of building a new line of 30 foot flat deck offshore sport boats. The first will be pulled from the mold around mid January. The plan is for the first is to be black. Two reasons for this. First, black will show the quality of the mold work which we take great pride in and want to show it off. Second, we have planned to install a real trick custom peanut butter cockpit interior, we also have a local plating company on board who is ready to start plating all of the cockpit hardware .This will include bezels, shifters, billet switches, raymarine display facia, cup holders, steering hub, steering wheel, pretty much everything.

The boat itself is planned to be all black gelcoat, then, black primer, black ppg and clearcoat from the chine up over the deck to avoid oxidization and in the event of grtting scratched, it wouldn't show much. Keeping the gel bottom for durability off and on the trailer.

Trying to get some feedback from a sales point, how many people really would want to own a black boat. We plan to build a couple more over the next few months which will be white gel.

On a side note, the cost of goldplating on #1 will be a minimal charge on top of the cost of the hardware as this is being done as a semi promotion.

Rookie 12-10-2009 08:46 PM

One of my favorite boat is a black Scarab. This was a good thread a while ago.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...ack-boats.html

C5Steve 12-10-2009 08:55 PM

Hot deck, no bare feet lol

On Time 12-10-2009 09:07 PM

Not for me. My feet are still burning after hopping on the front deck of a dark red Formula to tie it up this summer. It felt like stepping onto a campfire. One would require shoes to get on the deck at all times. I would never buy a black boat.

Catmando 12-10-2009 09:31 PM

I had a red boat and had to wear gloves and shoes moving around on the deck. I can't imagine how hot a black boat would be.

Munky Shaffer of the Rock group Korn had Shockwave boats build him a black boat. He had it on the market over three years before it finally sold.

Catmando 12-10-2009 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by Rookie (Post 3004136)
One of my favorite boat is a black Scarab. This was a good thread a while ago.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...ack-boats.html

I like the blue and black hullsides but not on the decks or vinyl.

aTX427 12-10-2009 09:48 PM

Do black hull sides and transom, but leave the rest white.

OL40SVX 12-10-2009 10:21 PM

The best black boat is the SV40 Outerlimits!!

http://www.performanceboatbrokerage....sp?boat_id=185

beertruck 12-10-2009 11:34 PM

I've had two black nordics so far, and I love them.

Griff 12-11-2009 01:05 AM

I would never own a boat with a black deck. Hull sides are fine, but IMO would show every water spot and minor rub mark.

Powerquest_Baby!! 12-11-2009 01:10 AM

Not a chance! Not worth all the hassle of dealing with a scalding hot bow. So many times you have to jump up there and I couldnt imagine how hot it would be thru swimtrunks or if you jumped on there with bare feet....NO THANKS!!

sonic69 12-11-2009 04:56 AM

There was a all black Skater at Cumberland poker run with a red interior this year. It looked bad as hell.

JeffC 12-11-2009 07:59 AM

Ask the Sunsation guys. They still have that black 43 that they are trying to sell.

007joe 12-11-2009 08:05 AM

My next boat will be black, can't get a badder looker boat IMO...
does sound like the deck walking will be an issue, but that's what the crew's for :evilb:

LapseofReason 12-11-2009 08:14 AM

Black is the best looking color until it gets wet, then it just looks dirty. I had a P29 Scarab that had about an 8 inch wide stripe on the bow that was black and you couldn't even touch it when the sun was up. Yes a black boat looks cool but thats it everything else sucks about it and you have less of a chance to sell it. Donzi built a black boat for the stupid Miami Vice movie and had to paint it to sell it.

PatriYacht 12-11-2009 08:39 AM

No for 2 reasons. First, the gel gets so hot, it weakens, expands and buckles leaving a permanently cracked surface. All dark colors will do this but black is the worst. Second, it oxidises so bad, you can't keep it black and shiney without daily waxing.

ZP'd 12-11-2009 08:39 AM

Not a chance I'd ever think about buying a black boat, GREAT deal or not. Looks great on a trailer IF it's always been stored indoors, that's the only plus side to owning one.
Insane how bad a black boat can look after a hour on the water not to mention the heat factor and problems associated with that.

Indy 12-11-2009 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by PatriYacht (Post 3004293)
No for 2 reasons. First, the gel gets so hot, it weakens, expands and buckles leaving a permanently cracked surface. All dark colors will do this but black is the worst. Second, it oxidises so bad, you can't keep it black and shiney without daily waxing.

Bingo...our local fiberglass repair shop said the same exact thing, the sun and temp bakes the heck out of the gel and shortens its life span. I had some graphics on my 10 year old PowerPlay and the black areas on the deck were cracked. No damage beneath but ONLY those black areas were damaged.

Other than that it's too hot, ok for the hullsides but I'd never buy an all black one.

damdonzi 12-11-2009 10:44 AM

Might want to check this thread:
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...ack-hulls.html

The most telling quote I think would be from the kingpin himself:


Originally Posted by BROWNIE (Post 1014480)
When I was at Cigarette, we did sun-generated temperature extremes on various colored gelcoats in the August Florida sun. Holy chit! Black and dark blue, 193F. White, 123. Other colors, logically in between. Plastic elastic limit on polyester resin (std laminate) 146 degrees. Theoretically, your black boat is about half as strong at noon as it is in the evening. Food for thought.....


H20 Toie 12-11-2009 12:55 PM

Even though black boats look great in person they don't show as well on photos

Gladhe8er 12-11-2009 02:24 PM

For me, no. For my Dad, yes. He has owned many black boats and loves them.

OL40SVX 12-11-2009 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by LapseofReason (Post 3004283)
Black is the best looking color until it gets wet, then it just looks dirty. I had a P29 Scarab that had about an 8 inch wide stripe on the bow that was black and you couldn't even touch it when the sun was up. Yes a black boat looks cool but thats it everything else sucks about it and you have less of a chance to sell it. Donzi built a black boat for the stupid Miami Vice movie and had to paint it to sell it.

The Miami Vice 38 ZR Donzi is still all black!

LapseofReason 12-11-2009 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by fountain40icbm (Post 3004446)
The Miami Vice 38 ZR Donzi is still all black!

Did it get interior color change ? I remember a thread on here about it and thought they said they were changing colors to help it sell.

OL40SVX 12-11-2009 03:05 PM

They did change the interior from black to silver but not the paint.

LapseofReason 12-11-2009 03:14 PM

Well they are half way there.:drink: The deck would look good in silver with maybe a dark red boot stripe

specialk 12-11-2009 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by LapseofReason (Post 3004283)
Black is the best looking color until it gets wet, then it just looks dirty. I had a P29 Scarab that had about an 8 inch wide stripe on the bow that was black and you couldn't even touch it when the sun was up. Yes a black boat looks cool but thats it everything else sucks about it and you have less of a chance to sell it. Donzi built a black boat for the stupid Miami Vice movie and had to paint it to sell it.

How can you say the movie was stupid? Any movie with hot boats and hot chicks is 2 thumbs up in my reviews! (what was the movie about?)

spectras only 12-11-2009 07:12 PM

I'd be much happier if Mirage did the side of my boat black all the way to the back. Guess I stuck with the 1990 look , unless spend some $$$ to redo the gel . Black is beautiful !

http://www3.telus.net/spectrasonly/mirage257.1.jpg

dykstra 12-11-2009 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by fountain40icbm (Post 3004194)
The best black boat is the SV40 Outerlimits!!

http://www.performanceboatbrokerage....sp?boat_id=185

Agreed!! That boat looks wicked!!

NKissau 12-12-2009 07:04 AM

Love the looks, but would never own one.

bojoe2 12-12-2009 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by fountain40icbm (Post 3004446)
The Miami Vice 38 ZR Donzi is still all black!

Fred you are correct they repainted it black because it was scrached up from the movie we used it for the islemarada poker run rite after that, Donzi told us you can walk on the deck with shoes, were repainting it... Really was not to scrached but they wanted to sell a nice clean boat. the deck was so hot you could not walk without shoes and you could feel the heat in the cockpit coming off the boat. not for me.

bill63 12-12-2009 08:11 AM

Black is bad . My is black gel then black ppg then clearcoat works great. It was original just black gel that was a Bi*%$#ch

RaggedEdge 12-12-2009 12:18 PM

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The Black Biotch.

Wouldn't want it all black, but I am real happy with it the way it is.

socalstone 12-12-2009 12:30 PM

I would never consider a black boat!
Black sides/stripes etc. sure, but all black deck etc?
No way. It might look cool and different, but boating to me is all about enjoying time on the water, hot sunny days etc. Black + sun do not work.

I had a dark red boat in the early 90's and learned to work with it,
but would never go back!

Lauderdaleboats 12-12-2009 09:24 PM

Thanks for the input. This is exactly what we're looking for as we had the same concerns. The plan is to put out a wicked a$$ boat but it needs to be practical. The black boat completely outfitted with high polished gold plated harware would look very trick but, we're going with opton B and the black will be special order only. I'll have some pics up soon, don't want to let the cat out of the bag just yet.

twistedvelocity 12-12-2009 10:32 PM

Well this thread made me decide against painting my boat blue like I was gunna good input

pm203 12-12-2009 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by fountain40icbm (Post 3004194)
The best black boat is the SV40 Outerlimits!!

http://www.performanceboatbrokerage....sp?boat_id=185

That might be true if Cigarette didn't build that black Topgun.

xconn92 12-13-2009 10:22 AM

What do you guys think about this one? Too much black on the deck?

http://www.captainschoiceboats.com/boatsforsale.html


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