Looking for preivious owner of the 92 baja outlaw that was at lake cumberland marine
 

Looking for the previous owner of the 1992 24' Baja outlaw with the 509 blower motor that I bought from Lake cumberland Marine. Need to talk to you. Not looking to make you lieable for any thing just trying to get titles for boat and trailer. Please Help anyone. It was supposed of come from PA and the previous owner traded this boat and an older outerlimits for a newer outerlimits. You can repond to this post our send a PM. Thanks alot in advanced.

Maybe it was USCG documented and doesn't have a title????

You can possibly search that option here http://www.st.nmfs.noaa.gov/st1/CoastGuard/index.html

Otherwise, you will have to do a state by state HIN search.

I have no name or numbers what so ever on the boat to do a search . I have a have a bill of sale. I am aware of documentation but alot of people do not so It will be hard to sell.

Why didn't LCM have it already?

The boat is to small to be USCG documented.

That sucks, sorry to hear. Do a search in the Baja forum, I remember them talking about that boat some time ago.

Try starting a thread at www.teambajamarine.com

was it a procharged motor?

was it all white or did it have gel graphix with sm gen 3headers maybe purple with a fg swim plateform out of PA if so I might have a info saved on it. it was a 92 or 94

Solid white no graphix. No pro charger it has a 6-71 blower shop. Purple steering wheel red swim plate form. Bravo 1 with Imco lower. Drew marine steering stabilizers. Was told at time of sale that title would be mailed. 3 months later after several emails and calls was told there was something wrong with title and previous owner was waiting on PA to send him a new title. So they sold me a boat knowing they didnt have a title. Sounds criminal to me.

Not the first time I heard of this from LCM. :rolleyes: I was interested in a 35 Fountain they had a couple of years ago. The title was about 2 previous owners behind ... I just walked away. I wish you the best of luck ... The reality of the situation is, depending on the individual state laws, and, although you have a "bill of sale", you may not legally own the boat. The title holder is the "legal owner" in many situations, even if you have a "bill of sale" (which could constitute fraud, grand theft, theft by deception, just to name a few, depending on the state, if the entity that sold you the boat doesn't have power of attorney to the title, or is not the title holder). Remember National Marine?

I had problems getting a title to one boat that I bought. I had a notarized bill of sale, on the marine dealer's letterhead, signed by the owner of the dealership. Dealer said I would get the title in the mail within 30 days; even the contract that was on the back of their letterhead said that, signed by the dealership owner. When it didn't show up in 60 days, and they only gave me lame excuses, I started checking it out myself. I was told by DMV, Dept of Natural Resources boat titling division, Department of Fish and Wildlife, local police, and a host of government agencies "good luck, we suggest you hire an attorney". I eventually got my title but nearly went crazy in the process. NEVER AGAIN ... If they don't have a clear title in hand (and in THEIR name), I'm not interested, there are some legitimate deals out there .... and lots that aren't!

All I can say is get on them hard and stick to it. I went thru their BS for a year and a half to get the paper work straight on a trailer they sold new back about 4 years ago. More promises than I can remember. I finally called the Kentucky Dept. of Motor Vehicles, got to a gal with a sympathetic ear that guaranteed me she would set their azz straight, and had a call from LCM a day later with a promise to get it to me. It did show up. From what I gathered from the gal at the Kentucky DMV I was not the first to call about LCM.

Like bob t noted, my paperwork was two deals back as well. These guys have a track record of this kind of chit. I didn't even buy the boat and trailer from and still got caught up in their chit. Boat was documented and fine, trailer was fine except they had just kinda' forgot about doing the paper work for the first owner.

Get them to provide you with contact info for the previous owner and contact him yourself and try to get the real story here.

White Baja
 

I was a previous owner of your boat I think. I sold it to buddy who did all the work to it and he traded it to the guy in PA.
for an active thunder. I'll try to get a number for you. Kurt.

Thanks alot. I just cant afford to hire an attory yet. I paid cash for the boat

Not hard to understand why they went BR.

get it taken care of before someone elses repo man shows up at your door... possession is 9/10ths of the law... possession of the title that is.

What a mess. There have been a number of these stories about this place over the years. Sad that they treat people like that.

Wow, what a stroke of luck! Hope it all works out.

Could not resist...

The repo man is the final 1/10 of the 9/10's possession theory....

And UNLESS you have it titled in your name, they can take it, just kindly ask you to move out of the way....

BUT this is truly putting the cart ahead of the horse... If it was me, I would ask the dealership to kindly get you all the past owner info, names, add, t# and above all, the copy of the sellers agreement. If they cannot get you that info immediately, it would be time to get the state involved, no matter what dealer you are working with!

If you have the USCG Doc. Number how easy it it to change Owner names? Sorry to High Jack the thread. Is there any place / Company that does this work?

not the same boat, and it does sound illegal as hell since there a company:lolhit::angry-smiley-038:. maybe call your state police ask.

Side effect of what is refered to as "Livin' Large"

92 outlaw
 

Hey PP. I talked with the guy I sold the boat to and he doesnt have the number for the guy that he traded it to. He said he will Email you to see if he can help. Good luck, Kurt.

ok thanks alot.

Lcm
 

This is INCREDIBLE! How many bad deals can one dealership get away with before someone shuts them down? You can add me and several friends to the list of people who have been shafted by these guys. I have done several internet searches over the years and found that LCM is constantly involved in law suits with customers. I really feel sorry for the next unfortunate sucker who walks in there and plunks down a good chunk of their hard earned dough for a nice boat.......that they believed to be owned or properly brokered by these fools. What a shame. One of these days they will mess with the wrong person.

:angry-smiley-038:

PP,
Good luck in getting this resolved. I guess I'm a little baffled as to why anyone would leave a dealer or private seller with $$ for boat that the seller doesn't have the titile for, or the title is not correct/updated .

After the National Marine meltdown, a couple of years ago, I would think everyone would be on their guard for these situations.

Of the 14 boats I have bought and sold over the years, one of the first Q's I ask is, "Do you have a Clear title on the boat that's in your name"?
Sorry, not trying to be insensitive to you problem, but this has happened so many times recently, and been documented here on OSO, that we all should just walk away from any deal, (I don't care how good of a deal it is!) if the paper work is missing or screwed up.
Once again, best of luck to you in resolving this.
Dean

Well I found out from the person that sold it to the last owner before he traded to LCM that his name is David George from PA anyone know him. I found his number online and left a message and have not heard from him. Can anyone help me here?

Good luck in your search.

And to just think, a couple yrs ago LCM would have had OSO remove this thread because of the negativity.

LCM can kiss my A**. After talking with one of the previous owners they sold me the boat months after knowing they didnt have a good title for the boat.

Now lake Cumberland marine is "Logistilake" and want to move your boat for you.That's certainly not a chance I'd take. I'll go through "uship" before they move anything for my clients..

Don't blame you a bit there. And to add to the story that I didn't put on this thread is that after I got the boat I ran it for less than 2 hrs and found water in the oil. Block was cracked due to not being winterized properly. I should of water tested it but it was late and we stated it on a hose. I did check the oil before hand but not after running it. I most likely wouldn't of checked it after water testing it. I learned a lesson here. Some of my buddies have bought at least 6 boats from them in the past. I think this will sway there choice of dealers in the future.

Update
 

Finally got my boat title. Thanks to all that helped.Still no trailer title but I can just get i weight for plates.