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scoop123 01-07-2010 03:52 PM

PSI or Whipple?
 
What would you use PSI blowers or the Large whipples and why?

animalhouse 01-07-2010 03:56 PM

I would use the Whipple 8.3's. They have a lower profile and are more efficient. I also believe they are priced better as well.

CB-BLR 01-07-2010 04:09 PM

I believe that the Whipple is more plug and play.. ie tried and tested.

The PSI would have to be a more custom installation.

Chris

Jeff P31 01-07-2010 05:42 PM

All in what you want to build, in my boat a whipple like cb said plug and play . On my drag car psi a lot more boost for a lot shorter time.

Velocity Vector 01-07-2010 07:08 PM

I like the looks of the PSI, Sorta like a small block sitting on top of a big block.

RMPRam 01-07-2010 07:09 PM

PSI's are my choice. I have had a pair for 10 years and love their look and performance. They look like a small block bolted on a big block. My $.02.

RMPRam 01-07-2010 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by Velocity Vector (Post 3019592)
I like the looks of the PSI, Sorta like a small block sitting on top of a big block.

Exactly what he said, only he beat me to it.

Coolerman 01-07-2010 11:50 PM

PSI = lots of psi!

scoop123 01-08-2010 12:28 PM

I currently have PSI's. They take alot of HP to work. Does The whipple use as much HP to make the same boost?

Velocity Vector 01-14-2010 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by RMPRam (Post 3019594)
Exactly what he said, only he beat me to it.

But I stole the quote from you...

B Idol 1 01-14-2010 08:48 PM

Dig the look of them PSIs but were waiting on the new Whipples .

I DIG IT !! 01-14-2010 10:38 PM

Whipple all the way. 5 liters !!!!!!

JollyJohnny 01-14-2010 11:03 PM

Definatly PSI, they are proven. Whipple still is working on thier Research and Design, a couple of the kinks to work out.

mike tkach 01-14-2010 11:43 PM


Originally Posted by scoop123 (Post 3020009)
I currently have PSI's. They take alot of HP to work. Does The whipple use as much HP to make the same boost?

i disagree,the psi or the whipple take way less power to operate,than a roots blower.less parasitic loss equils more crankshaft power.the best roots blower eats up way more power than a psi 206d,and generates a lot more heat in the intake charge.

Dan Adams 01-15-2010 07:32 AM

Ok, say you go with the Whipples. Next question, carbs on top or throttle body and fuel injection?

SHAWN DAVIS 01-15-2010 07:53 AM

Either one works good, we ran Whipple R980 and A980 on my drag car, now PSI. and got a couple boats with R980's. Dont have to turn the whipple as hard, if you are talking about the old ones. The PSI is about 30 lbs lighter and looks better.
I like carbs because I can fix those and dont have to mess with calibrations.

GLH 01-15-2010 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by scoop123 (Post 3019455)
What would you use PSI blowers or the Large whipples and why?

It's all good as long as you;

"Run some boost through them biatches"

This was the first opinion I read on this board and is still the best, funniest and most expensive one I have gotten!

Whipple Charged 01-15-2010 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by scoop123 (Post 3020009)
I currently have PSI's. They take alot of HP to work. Does The whipple use as much HP to make the same boost?

On common marine engines, below 1600hp, they will take close to the same power, but have cooler temps. Ours makes far more low end torque and has significantly better fuel/air distribution and idle characteristics. You can't idle a 7.5L PSI gas version down to 800rpm. Not that many want too, but we have plenty that do.

Whipple Charged 01-15-2010 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by JollyJohnny (Post 3024346)
Definatly PSI, they are proven. Whipple still is working on thier Research and Design, a couple of the kinks to work out.

Ya, thats really, really not true. We had to open up some clearance for applications that don't run the fuel through the SC so now we have "dry" and "wet" clearances. We also have "race" and "pleasure".

Whipple Charged 01-15-2010 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by Dan Adams (Post 3024473)
Ok, say you go with the Whipples. Next question, carbs on top or throttle body and fuel injection?

Rear entry EFI is by far the best. Rotors are sealed 360deg with no leak path.

PSI's housing design is horrible, the inlet is 100% wrong for performance, which is why everyone in the drag world modifies them. Rotors need to be sealed as they move air through the housing. Compression is increasing as the air moves axially through the housing, therefore you lose compression and airflow as the rotor goes by the open portion of the housing.

fountainfan42 09-01-2011 08:55 PM

[QUOTE=scoop123;3020009[B]]I currently have PSI's[/B]. They take alot of HP to work..

you made the right choice and dont change a thing :drink::drink::drink:

WETTE VETTE 09-01-2011 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by scoop123 (Post 3020009)
I currently have PSI's. They take alot of HP to work. Does The whipple use as much HP to make the same boost?

How much boost are we talking?

PhantomChaos 09-02-2011 12:34 AM

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skater40 09-02-2011 09:26 AM

Looks like Mike Bobbits [Risky Business] engines.

weldcrane 09-02-2011 10:39 PM

check into the support you get with both companys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! after the sale makes a difference

EXCESS ENERGY 09-03-2011 07:22 AM

PSI all the way. Bob

PokerRun388 09-03-2011 10:16 AM

Whipples
 
I love the low/profile look of the whipples, and they fit nicely under the hatches......PSI blowers are too big, and heavy looking for me... WHIPPLE for me..!!!:drink:

Whipple Charged 09-03-2011 03:02 PM

Is there really a comparison? Here's the 10.5 and 12.0 liter SC. Light years ahead of anything out there.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h9...ple12liter.jpg

388SLW 09-03-2011 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by Whipple Charged (Post 3495290)
Is there really a comparison? Here's the 10.5 and 12.0 liter SC. Light years ahead of anything out there.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h9...ple12liter.jpg

Do u make the 10.5/12.0 ?? If not when ?? Looks good like the old 930 ? Almost.

Whipple Charged 09-03-2011 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by 388SLW (Post 3495305)
Do u make the 10.5/12.0 ?? If not when ?? Looks good like the old 930 ? Almost.

Working on it now, debuiting at PRI Show. Older SC was a 9.8 or 980. Very different animal here.....

WeaponX 09-03-2011 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by Whipple Charged (Post 3495351)
Working on it now, debuiting at PRI Show. Older SC was a 9.8 or 980. Very different animal here.....

In the pic it looks like the rotors "screws" are cone shaped?? It would be one way to compress the air.

fountainfan42 09-04-2011 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by Whipple Charged (Post 3495351)
Working on it now, debuiting at PRI Show. Older SC was a 9.8 or 980. Very different animal here.....

you've been saying this for over 3 years :party-smiley-004: the PSI is avail and PROVEN by Ch!ps kick azz speeds .no belts coming off or bearing & snout problems :evilb:

RMPRam 09-04-2011 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by fountainfan42 (Post 3495490)
you've been saying this for over 3 years :party-smiley-004: the PSI is avail and PROVEN by Ch!ps kick azz speeds .no belts coming off or bearing & snout problems :evilb:

I also agree with fountain42. I have not had any experience with the Whipples but I did run a pair of PSI's for over 10 years on my 38 Cigarette with absolutely no trouble. No bearing failure nor throwing any belts, just outstanding performance and reliability.

pqjack 09-04-2011 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by PokerRun388 (Post 3495192)
I love the low/profile look of the whipples, and they fit nicely under the hatches......PSI blowers are too big, and heavy looking for me... WHIPPLE for me..!!!:drink:

same here...496/whipple,and very satisfied

AIR TIME 09-04-2011 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by JollyJohnny (Post 3024346)
Definatly PSI, they are proven. Whipple still is working on thier Research and Design, a couple of the kinks to work out.

yah 2 yrs in a row Dan didn't finish the borden light pokerrun with his 40 skater running sterlings1350/1550 whipples cause of the pulley shaft or pulley:(:( I caught this second hand but was there there to see it towed in twice. I need to drop off pics to him and fined out. I think he had computer issues up at loto too which would suck real bad since its a 30 to 35 hour tow.I like the old school psi and am happy with my 1071 and dyno #s . Dean Gellner builds nice stuff and he is the one working on your junk, not someone who has a bunch of guys building under his name and your paying big funds for there name.

Whipple Charged 09-05-2011 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by fountainfan42 (Post 3495490)
you've been saying this for over 3 years :party-smiley-004: the PSI is avail and PROVEN by Ch!ps kick azz speeds .no belts coming off or bearing & snout problems :evilb:

3 years? Lets not exagerate quite so much. Its been about a year now and something this big and with all the new technology it features, takes some time to develop. As for belt issues, 99% of them are from incorrect setups. You ever see how many belt issues customers with PSI's have when they try to make power? Almost all had to go to kevlar belts. Ask any drag racer how belts live with there PSI's.

Whipple Charged 09-05-2011 04:34 AM


Originally Posted by AIR TIME (Post 3495829)
yah 2 yrs in a row Dan didn't finish the borden light pokerrun with his 40 skater running sterlings1350/1550 whipples cause of the pulley shaft or pulley:(:( I caught this second hand but was there there to see it towed in twice. I need to drop off pics to him and fined out. I think he had computer issues up at loto too which would suck real bad since its a 30 to 35 hour tow.I like the old school psi and am happy with my 1071 and dyno #s . Dean Gellner builds nice stuff and he is the one working on your junk, not someone who has a bunch of guys building under his name and your paying big funds for there name.

Actually not true, especially since I was there. They had a pulley issue, as they had bolts 1-2mm too long. That was fixed, they had other issues. When they had drive issues before, they were not our drives, they were built by someone else and they were a mess. Any part can have a problem when its not installed properly or not used properly, but when its used as designed and intended, failures are rare.

PSI's rotors are an old, out of patent design that cannot maintain the efficency or flow levels of the later profile shapes, thats not fiction, thats fact. Many later technologies have come out in the last 50 years since those rotors were designed. Time will tell whats superior.

weldcrane 09-05-2011 05:57 AM

hows is wipples customer service after the sale??????????????

TeamSaris 09-05-2011 06:57 AM

Whipple. Most efficient blower out there

OL40SVX 09-05-2011 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by AIR TIME (Post 3495829)
yah 2 yrs in a row Dan didn't finish the borden light pokerrun with his 40 skater running sterlings1350/1550 whipples cause of the pulley shaft or pulley:(:( I caught this second hand but was there there to see it towed in twice. I need to drop off pics to him and fined out. I think he had computer issues up at loto too which would suck real bad since its a 30 to 35 hour tow.I like the old school psi and am happy with my 1071 and dyno #s . Dean Gellner builds nice stuff and he is the one working on your junk, not someone who has a bunch of guys building under his name and your paying big funds for there name.

Art, not true as I was there as well.


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