tommymonza

Dave i understand how a thin skin can survive on a light boat as the reflective forcefrom the water is in correlation with how heavy the boat is.Also there is molded in structural shapes and lines that reinforce these light areas.
A big broad concave area like the front of the Bertram needs a lot more than they were putting into it. Take a look back at Pauls site and see the bows are fully double framed than 1 inch planked than 1/4 inch ply and a layer of 1808 over that all built in a convex shape. Now compare that with some flimsy 3/4 inch foam with a 2 or 3 layers of biaxe on each side with no interior bracing with a convex shape to boot.

Dave you have to sign up on Yacht Forums to view it they just released the video today.

glassdave

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The Talon is 100% foam, hull sides(3/4") and running surface(2"), bagged with vinylester. I also have a couple Skaters at the moment and they are bagged epoxy/Baltek boats.

The Talon was pretty thin as well. I had to fix a pretty good hole in it from the 08 Key West Worlds.

glassdave

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100% agreed, big boats need a big laminate

Thanks I will go check out YF. I'm on there as Gordon Freeman

tommymonza

Who is Gordon Freeman ?

glassdave

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lol its actually a character on a video game i use to play, Half-Life. I have no idea why i picked that as my screen name. I only use glassdave on boat sights i am active on and have something to contribute. I am just a lurker on YF.

Steve 1

Even in the ester systems where the vacuum levels are kept low in wet bagging there is @30% compaction or better in the laminate. The Epoxies I start at 5 HG then ramp it up.

tommymonza

OHH that Gordon Freeman. The one on all the pornsites

glassdave

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actually YF is the only place i use that one. I'm really only on a hand full of sites anyway

glassdave

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hey Steve can you send me your email address again?

[email protected]

I want to send you a schematic of a method i use to repair these thin laminates and see if I'm heading in the right direction. Of course we have two years pounding on the repair i did to the Talon with no sign of failure of any kind. Most of the boats that go through my shop are traditional thick lay ups and I've had to work off the cuff to come up with a way to repair some of these ultra thin boats.

Thanks for your input

tommymonza

Did you see the video Dave . What do you think?

Hey Dave could you send that schematic to me also ? Always curious to see stuff like that my address [email protected]. Thanks.