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Exhaust Gas Temp Guage
How many of you guys run one and what is the max temperature you feel safe with? I run a duel digital unit and back off when it hits 1400 degrees. What cylinders do you have your probes in? Mine are in #6.
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No one runs a EGT???
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how do you rig up the sensors if you have CMI? Doy ou have to put a hole in them and weld the sensor in place?
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What I did was look at a head cut away that Jim V. has and found that if you keep it within 1/16 to 3/32 away from the exhaust head to header flange you can drill the head without getting into the water jacket. So that is where my thermocouples are mounted in #6 cylinder exhaust port.
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hmm how big are the sensors? I'm not to sure hwo i feel abotu drilling into the heads. I was thinkgin of mayeb gettgn some kind of spacer that would go between the head and the header. That. coudl be drill though easily. and mount eth sensor. I figure even if it was 1/2" thick the headers woudl still fit properly. I konw eddie marienb sells similar spacer so you can use 454 chevy headers on 460 ford engine. I figure soemthign similar but just a straight spacer with bung in it.
How accurate are those things? I think monitoring the exhaust temp would be pretty valuable assuming teh sensor was accurate. |
I have one on my motor on cylinder # 1. In my opinion it is about the most important guage I have. I am constantly staring at it. Under 7 psi boost I see around 1100-1200 degrees.
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But what is the maximum temp you feel comfortable with?
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Whipple system has one!
I've got one on my 454 mag EFI compliments of Dustin. This was one of the significant technical reasons i went with his system vs others. It's tied into an idiot light and the computer etc. I suspect most of the efi systems use it.
It mounts in the merc manifold at #1, I can't remember if 1350 or 1400 triggers it. Happy to have it, any blower or performance motor should have one. I've got one on my cummins too. Both use 1/4" pipe thread if i remember right. |
This is a good topic that got a lot of good response a while back .
I have them on my engines on #1 & #8 cylinders on both motors .They are in a 1" spacer between the head and exhaust manifold . MOst boats would not have the room for these spacers. Mine does . I was told that the sensor being this close to the cylinder gives false high readings as it is being burnt by flaming exhaust gasses comeing out of the head . I am told that the ideal place for the sensor would be about 3-4" into the exhaust tube of the header . That would be hard to do with water jacketed headers . So we do the best we can . I don't have a lot of experience with mine yet but it runs 900-1200 most of the time . It gets up around 1400- 1500 running harder . I think it is too hot at that but they say it is because of where it is mounted . They say if it was where it should be ,the temps would be a few hundred less . |
o2 sensors in marine manifolds.
Wheve can supply stainless one piece hi performance manifolds in all configurations Ford Chev etc with o2 sensors in the correct position to give correct readings.
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o2 sensors in marine manifolds.
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sorry forgot to include picture Ford 351 windsor pictured other applications including buick v6 gm 5.7 LS1 6.0 LS2
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The Bros here have a 50 hustler with trip 900hp's and they run those.
The number you mentioned is what they go by. They shut off if it hits 1400. usually around 1100 I think. Hope this helps. |
On the truck if I see 1400 I back off but I never shut it down, I want the exhaust to keep flowing as it can cool, a boat is a different story though. I let it idle until it hits 400 or so. I see 1100 most of the time, only higher if I am towing a big load at speed up a good grade.
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What type of gas enging needs a EGT guage. I don't have any experience with high hp gas engines. I have a little experience with diesels. I installed a egt and boost guage on a diesel in a truck. The temp guage was installed pre turbo.
We ran the engine without any mods to establish baseline data, installed an aftermarket chip, and gathered more data. Installed a propane injection system, and then you really had to watch it. EGT's without mods 900 deg F EGT's with chip 12-1300 on top end EGT's with chip and propane, had to back off at 100mph, egt's touched 1500 for a sec, Am told not to exceed 1325 deg F pre turbo. |
I run and have run pyro's for sometime...first with my IMCO manifolds & now with my CMI's. BTW, you can send your CMI headers back to CMI and they will install the sensor coupling. I always encourage my customers to order their CMI headers with the sensor coupling, even if they do not plan on using it right away.
BTW, I usually mount the probe on the #1 and/or #8 cylinders and keep the temps at 1250 or below. |
I had gaffrig egts in my lightning headers in #7 & 8,they read 1500 to pegged all the time when under throttle,plugs were black and sooty. I quit paying attention to them because they obviously were way off. I tested them once with a comtrolled heat source and compared them to my pyro 2000 gauges on my snowmobile-they read 200-300 degrees too hot so don't waste your time on the gaffrigs. I currently have a 02 bung in my stainless marine 3's in #8,about 1 inch from exhaust flange on bottom,on crocketts innovate it seemed very accurate,Smitty
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Originally Posted by julius750
(Post 2182895)
sorry forgot to include picture Ford 351 windsor pictured other applications including buick v6 gm 5.7 LS1 6.0 LS2
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