Oil spill in the gulf of Mexico
05-18-2010, 06:27 PM
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Exactly so Mr. Koss. Because BP wanted to speed up the plugging, they bullied TransOcean into pulling the mud before the last plug was put in place, thus creating that giant gas stream that destroyed the rig and killed 11 good men. They are CRIMINALS and should be tried in a court of law for their crimes.
05-18-2010, 06:41 PM
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Exactly so Mr. Koss. Because BP wanted to speed up the plugging, they bullied TransOcean into pulling the mud before the last plug was put in place, thus creating that giant gas stream that destroyed the rig and killed 11 good men. They are CRIMINALS and should be tried in a court of law for their crimes.
05-19-2010, 08:30 AM
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From the washington post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051901429.html
Lab: Fla. Keys tar balls not from Gulf oil spill
The Associated Press
Wednesday, May 19, 2010; 9:04 AM
KEY WEST, Fla. -- The Coast Guard says tar balls that floated ashore in the Florida Keys aren't linked to the Gulf of Mexico oil spill.
A report released Wednesday says tests by a Coast Guard laboratory show the tar balls don't match the type of oil from the Deepwater Horizon spill. The source of the tar balls isn't known. Tar balls can occur naturally or come from other sources such as ships.
Twenty were found Monday and several others Tuesday.
Government scientists who surveyed the Gulf on Tuesday said tendrils of light oil were near or already in a powerful current that could take it to Florida. The loop current circulates in the Gulf and takes water south to the Florida Keys and the Gulf Stream. But most oil remains dozens of miles away from the current.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051901429.html
Lab: Fla. Keys tar balls not from Gulf oil spill
The Associated Press
Wednesday, May 19, 2010; 9:04 AM
KEY WEST, Fla. -- The Coast Guard says tar balls that floated ashore in the Florida Keys aren't linked to the Gulf of Mexico oil spill.
A report released Wednesday says tests by a Coast Guard laboratory show the tar balls don't match the type of oil from the Deepwater Horizon spill. The source of the tar balls isn't known. Tar balls can occur naturally or come from other sources such as ships.
Twenty were found Monday and several others Tuesday.
Government scientists who surveyed the Gulf on Tuesday said tendrils of light oil were near or already in a powerful current that could take it to Florida. The loop current circulates in the Gulf and takes water south to the Florida Keys and the Gulf Stream. But most oil remains dozens of miles away from the current.
05-19-2010, 08:55 AM
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Here is what a friend of mine had to say about the spill:
Worked on a shallow water rig (bay) when a teen just out of high school. Been around a refinery fire/explosion a couple of times. Scares you beyond belief.
Yeah, I've had a similar nightmare before. Details were different but the possibilities were the same.
Still hard to imagine what the poor crew on board this rig were feeling.
It all happens so very,very fast. A sealing surface blows out and then natural gas and crude oil under high pressure hits the deck and structure. Alarms are blaring....what do you do to stop it, where do you run ? Gas hits an ignition source. Then it explodes into a fireball. Noise is deafening. If you live it's nipping at your butt. The control room is blown away. Auto fire suppression systems kick in, fire boats come in, rescue boats. Jump into an ocean 50-100 ft below. With burning oil around it in clusters! No choice. Jump or burn. Everything crumbles and sinks. Disaster.
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Not sure what style of valve (valves) were in place but a blow-out preventer shuts when differential pressure is detected or a control signal is given.
There could have been many causes....my best guess is from something I heard on the news.
One of the technicians who survived said that a question had arisen as to some elastomer (rubber) found in the slurry mud that came from the hole. This technician and some who did not survive thought that the source of the rubber was a sealing component of the blow-out preventer.
Understand there had been a systems test failure just a short time before. That plus the technicians report on the rubber pieces would indicate a decision point was missed.
There was a supervisor (s) whose job it was to stop operations when information regarding a systems failure or equipment malfunction is detected.
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Human error, design failure, poor maintenance, bad installation, poor luck and several of the things all came together at once to allow this to happen.
We were taught "there are no accidents". Everything has a series of contributing factors! Being human we just don't like to admit to them.
Worked on a shallow water rig (bay) when a teen just out of high school. Been around a refinery fire/explosion a couple of times. Scares you beyond belief.
Yeah, I've had a similar nightmare before. Details were different but the possibilities were the same.
Still hard to imagine what the poor crew on board this rig were feeling.
It all happens so very,very fast. A sealing surface blows out and then natural gas and crude oil under high pressure hits the deck and structure. Alarms are blaring....what do you do to stop it, where do you run ? Gas hits an ignition source. Then it explodes into a fireball. Noise is deafening. If you live it's nipping at your butt. The control room is blown away. Auto fire suppression systems kick in, fire boats come in, rescue boats. Jump into an ocean 50-100 ft below. With burning oil around it in clusters! No choice. Jump or burn. Everything crumbles and sinks. Disaster.
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Not sure what style of valve (valves) were in place but a blow-out preventer shuts when differential pressure is detected or a control signal is given.
There could have been many causes....my best guess is from something I heard on the news.
One of the technicians who survived said that a question had arisen as to some elastomer (rubber) found in the slurry mud that came from the hole. This technician and some who did not survive thought that the source of the rubber was a sealing component of the blow-out preventer.
Understand there had been a systems test failure just a short time before. That plus the technicians report on the rubber pieces would indicate a decision point was missed.
There was a supervisor (s) whose job it was to stop operations when information regarding a systems failure or equipment malfunction is detected.
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Human error, design failure, poor maintenance, bad installation, poor luck and several of the things all came together at once to allow this to happen.
We were taught "there are no accidents". Everything has a series of contributing factors! Being human we just don't like to admit to them.
05-19-2010, 09:10 AM
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From the washington post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051901429.html
Lab: Fla. Keys tar balls not from Gulf oil spill
The Associated Press
Wednesday, May 19, 2010; 9:04 AM
KEY WEST, Fla. -- The Coast Guard says tar balls that floated ashore in the Florida Keys aren't linked to the Gulf of Mexico oil spill.
A report released Wednesday says tests by a Coast Guard laboratory show the tar balls don't match the type of oil from the Deepwater Horizon spill. The source of the tar balls isn't known. Tar balls can occur naturally or come from other sources such as ships.
Twenty were found Monday and several others Tuesday.
Government scientists who surveyed the Gulf on Tuesday said tendrils of light oil were near or already in a powerful current that could take it to Florida. The loop current circulates in the Gulf and takes water south to the Florida Keys and the Gulf Stream. But most oil remains dozens of miles away from the current.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051901429.html
Lab: Fla. Keys tar balls not from Gulf oil spill
The Associated Press
Wednesday, May 19, 2010; 9:04 AM
KEY WEST, Fla. -- The Coast Guard says tar balls that floated ashore in the Florida Keys aren't linked to the Gulf of Mexico oil spill.
A report released Wednesday says tests by a Coast Guard laboratory show the tar balls don't match the type of oil from the Deepwater Horizon spill. The source of the tar balls isn't known. Tar balls can occur naturally or come from other sources such as ships.
Twenty were found Monday and several others Tuesday.
Government scientists who surveyed the Gulf on Tuesday said tendrils of light oil were near or already in a powerful current that could take it to Florida. The loop current circulates in the Gulf and takes water south to the Florida Keys and the Gulf Stream. But most oil remains dozens of miles away from the current.
This is good news I'm tryin to take the boat down there next month to enjoy it maybe one last time
http://www.deepwaterhorizonresponse....oc/586/554303/
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05-19-2010, 07:01 PM
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Heavy Sludge Oozes into Marshes of Louisiana
(CBS/AP) It may be the most disturbing site yet: the first heavy sludge now oozing into the marshes of Louisiana as the slick continues to grow in size out in the gulf.
CBS News correspondent Kelly Cobiella reports it's an ominous sight. The oil is thick and black and stretches about a quarter mile down a beach. It goes beyond the booms into the sensitive marsh lands which are home to migratory birds.
Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal flew over it Tuesday.
"This wasn't just sheen, we were seeing heavy oil out there," Jindal said. "This wasn't just tar balls. It shows you how quick the oil showed up."
When CBS News tried to reach the beach, covered in oil, a boat of BP contractors with two Coast Guard officers on board told us to turn around under threat of arrest. Coast Guard officials said they are looking into the incident.
The impact on wildlife is unclear. Government officials say that 162 sea turtles have died, about half a dozen bottle nose dolphins have died. The sea turtles have not been thoroughly examined yet but federal officials say this seems related to the oil spill. And they admit they have no idea what's happening in the deeper waters because they can't watch it.
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yeah, good move BP. I guess you're afraid someone is gonna steal your oil off the beach? goddamn idiots- they phucking ruin it and act like they now have some kind of almighty right to keep people from PUBLIC land? GODDAMMIT.
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05-20-2010, 06:58 AM
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Have you ever carried a 5 gallon bucket of water?
Here's a nice little set of photos from LA gov Jindhal's tour of some marshes yesterday where the oil is just starting to come ashore.
Here's what this makes me think about:
This is just the beginning. That's literally just a few feet of oil. Get some of that hay, sop it up, we're good. Shrimp boil tonite! I'll bring the beer.
This sh!t has been gushing unchecked now for a goddamn month. Nobody knows exactly how much oil has been released, all those thousands of barrels worth, but all I can think of is that huge plume hitting a beach, or a marsh, or a reef somewhere. Think about how much oil is in a plume that is 10 miles long, 3 miles wide and 300 feet thick. Think about what it would take to just siphon up that quantity of liquid ooze. don't even consider the fact that it's soaked into the sugar white beach sand, or marsh mud, or...
I'm making myself crazy here.
Here's what this makes me think about:
This is just the beginning. That's literally just a few feet of oil. Get some of that hay, sop it up, we're good. Shrimp boil tonite! I'll bring the beer.
This sh!t has been gushing unchecked now for a goddamn month. Nobody knows exactly how much oil has been released, all those thousands of barrels worth, but all I can think of is that huge plume hitting a beach, or a marsh, or a reef somewhere. Think about how much oil is in a plume that is 10 miles long, 3 miles wide and 300 feet thick. Think about what it would take to just siphon up that quantity of liquid ooze. don't even consider the fact that it's soaked into the sugar white beach sand, or marsh mud, or...
I'm making myself crazy here.
