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Matt Trulio 07-16-2010 09:35 AM

Cigarette AMG Status
 
If you happen to be boating in the Miami area today and you see something strangely familiar, http://www.boats.com/boat-content/20...ream%E2%80%9D/.

Perlmudder 07-16-2010 09:37 AM

nice nice! so what is the guess on speed? somewhere around 130?

Jupiter Sunsation 07-16-2010 09:39 AM

Glad to hear it is running great with over 100 hours on it. The non-disclosure of the top speed is disappointing. I interpret it as "boat goes faster than any 46 1075 boat built (so that means 120) but it isn't catching a Fountain or Outerlimits with identical HP.

Manufacturers are always proud of a big top speed number. Not announcing one means you don't have a good one yet!

Matt Trulio 07-16-2010 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 3160151)
Glad to hear it is running great with over 100 hours on it. The non-disclosure of the top speed is disappointing. I interpret it as "boat goes faster than any 46 1075 boat built (so that means 120) but it isn't catching a Fountain or Outerlimits with identical HP.

Manufacturers are always proud of a big top speed number. Not announcing one means you don't have a good one yet!

Not necessarily, Jupe. I've had manufacturers be cagey with me on all kinds of things for all kinds of reasons. Interpreting their motives is a guessing game I like to stay out of.

Trust me, I'd like to know the number, too.

bojoe2 07-16-2010 12:31 PM

thanks for the update Matt hope all is well

drpete3 07-16-2010 01:04 PM

I saw it listed somewhere yesterday for 1.1 mil

found it again http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2010.../United-States

Strip Poker 388 07-16-2010 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 3160151)
Glad to hear it is running great with over 100 hours on it. The non-disclosure of the top speed is disappointing. I interpret it as "boat goes faster than any 46 1075 boat built (so that means 120) but it isn't catching a Fountain or Outerlimits with identical HP.

Manufacturers are always proud of a big top speed number. Not announcing one means you don't have a good one yet!

I'm thinking the same thing. I wonder how much heavier are the motors than 1075's?

Catmando 07-16-2010 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 3160151)
Glad to hear it is running great with over 100 hours on it. The non-disclosure of the top speed is disappointing. I interpret it as "boat goes faster than any 46 1075 boat built (so that means 120) but it isn't catching a Fountain or Outerlimits with identical HP.

Manufacturers are always proud of a big top speed number. Not announcing one means you don't have a good one yet!

If a 1075 46 can run 120, a similar boat with 500 more hp and 300lbs lighter(each) motors should run at least 130 I would think.

TexomaPowerboater 07-16-2010 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 3160151)
Glad to hear it is running great with over 100 hours on it. The non-disclosure of the top speed is disappointing. I interpret it as "boat goes faster than any 46 1075 boat built (so that means 120) but it isn't catching a Fountain or Outerlimits with identical HP.

Manufacturers are always proud of a big top speed number. Not announcing one means you don't have a good one yet!

Its not how fast you go that matters, its how well you go fast:party-smiley-004:

Beautiful boat.

Jupiter Sunsation 07-16-2010 09:56 PM

If that boat tags 130+ there would be a full page ad in the next Powerboat magazine bragging about how good life is at 130 with warranty and the smoothness of AMG/Mercedes etc.


The 46 is a great hull, excellent boat but at 1.1MM it gives buyers a whole lot of other options!

American Muscle II- 375K
09 Nortech 50 V- 3,000 HP- 499K
Apache- Medicine Man- 159K
F650 Used Tow Vehicle- 67K

143 FT of GO FASTS, 7400 HP AND a tow vehicle for the same 1.1MM. I can't say that the AMG Cig is better than the "options."

frickstyle 07-17-2010 07:00 AM

It's the Cigarette tax.

haulinvols 07-17-2010 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 3161016)
If that boat tags 130+ there would be a full page ad in the next Powerboat magazine bragging about how good life is at 130 with warranty and the smoothness of AMG/Mercedes etc.


The 46 is a great hull, excellent boat but at 1.1MM it gives buyers a whole lot of other options!

American Muscle II- 375K
09 Nortech 50 V- 3,000 HP- 499K
Apache- Medicine Man- 159K
F650 Used Tow Vehicle- 67K

143 FT of GO FASTS, 7400 HP AND a tow vehicle for the same 1.1MM. I can't say that the AMG Cig is better than the "options."


Good points but if years in sales has taught me anything it is that there is a butt for every seat.

There is someone out there that will buy this thing just because of what it is and what it represents (ex. I can afford to spend a **** load of money) so I would not be surprised to see it sell.

flat rate 07-17-2010 07:32 AM

Anyone found a video of the new turbo engines running yet? I would like to hear what they sound like.

Comanche3Six 07-17-2010 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by Matt Trulio (Post 3160160)
Not necessarily, Jupe. I've had manufacturers be cagey with me on all kinds of things for all kinds of reasons. Interpreting their motives is a guessing game I like to stay out of.

Trust me, I'd like to know the number, too.

Well said..

offshoredrillin 07-17-2010 09:16 AM

After reading the press release in another thread, Merc has been using it for real time R&D, so I understand why Skip didnt say anything. But there is great meaning when he says it is faster than any production Cig made, that in itself speaks volumes. Sweet pkg for sure.

anewway 07-17-2010 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by frickstyle (Post 3161127)
It's the Cigarette tax.

Now that was good! :lolhit:

Steve 1 07-17-2010 03:15 PM

Miami Company, we all like Cigarette down here ,I wish Skip and Team the best on this.

Catmando 07-17-2010 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by frickstyle (Post 3161127)
It's the Cigarette tax.

LOL :lolhit:

Boatlesss 07-18-2010 12:48 PM

I just have to ask.. With over 100 hours on this boat, has anyone seen it on the water? Anywhere other than the Miami boat show? Marina's? Launch ramps? Anywhere? I heard the engines were taken out after the boat show and have not been back since. I'd hate to think with the close relationship that Freddy and Skip have that someone is being less than honsest, after all this is the boating world.

Catmando 07-24-2010 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by Boatlesss (Post 3161759)
I just have to ask.. With over 100 hours on this boat, has anyone seen it on the water? Anywhere other than the Miami boat show? Marina's? Launch ramps? Anywhere? I heard the engines were taken out after the boat show and have not been back since. I'd hate to think with the close relationship that Freddy and Skip have that someone is being less than honsest, after all this is the boating world.

Cigarette had to design a new engine hatch to accomodate the exhaust configuration so it wouldn't make sense to take the motors out unless they changed the hatch too...

Jassman 07-24-2010 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 3161192)
After reading the press release in another thread, Merc has been using it for real time R&D, so I understand why Skip didnt say anything. But there is great meaning when he says it is faster than any production Cig made, that in itself speaks volumes. Sweet pkg for sure.



How does Bayliner compare to Cig...are they are all the same..II think Thistank told me so.... what do I know..:popcorn::)

pm203 07-25-2010 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by Jassman (Post 3167076)
How does Bayliner compare to Cig...are they are all the same..II think Thistank told me so.... what do I know..:popcorn::)

Huh?

thisistank 07-26-2010 12:53 AM


Originally Posted by Jassman (Post 3167076)
How does Bayliner compare to Cig...are they are all the same..II think Thistank told me so.... what do I know..:popcorn::)

Did my name get mentioned in this post that I cant even start to understand? wtf?:bong:

fastdonzi 07-26-2010 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 3167685)
Did my name get mentioned in this post that I cant even start to understand? wtf?:bong:

Yup, He even went back and edited it 3 hrs later to make it even More un-comprehendable.. I think he's gonna buy a chop gun and start making hulls. :)

Jassman 07-26-2010 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by fastdonzi (Post 3167712)
Yup, He even went back and edited it 3 hrs later to make it even More un-comprehendable.. I think he's gonna buy a chop gun and start making hulls. :)

damn Ok now thats funny......I'm just going to borrow Donzi's chopper gun:grinser010:

I was just trying to get a rise out of Rob.. and I picked one of the most affluent Cig guy that I could think of.." Thistank"...It was funny at the time. No offense.

offshoredrillin 07-26-2010 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by Jassman (Post 3168117)
damn Ok now thats funny......I'm just going to borrow Donzi's chopper gun:grinser010:

I was just trying to get a rise out of Rob.. and I picked one of the most affluent Cig guy that I could think of.." Thistank"...It was funny at the time. No offense.


I told you about mixing your meds and booze Jeff :D

pm203 07-26-2010 02:52 PM

Jeff,
I didn't want to have to do it, but it is done. You are now on double secret Cigarette probation.

thisistank 07-26-2010 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by Jassman (Post 3168117)
damn Ok now thats funny......I'm just going to borrow Donzi's chopper gun:grinser010:

I was just trying to get a rise out of Rob.. and I picked one of the most affluent Cig guy that I could think of.." Thistank"...It was funny at the time. No offense.

Hahaha, I was totally confused...I thought I pissed you off or something.:drink:

Jassman 07-26-2010 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 3168148)
I told you about mixing your meds and booze Jeff :D

and please dont tell my parole officer about..... the hard stuff:grinser010:

Jassman 07-26-2010 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 3168161)
Jeff,
I didn't want to have to do it, but it is done. You are now on double secret Cigarette probation.

whew...cool, just between you and me...:grinser010:

Jassman 07-26-2010 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 3168271)
Hahaha, I was totally confused...I thought I pissed you off or something.:drink:

naaaaaa, I don't get pissed off to easy (been pissed on by 2 members in 10 years here), life's too short, I take it day by day...:drink:

Jupiter Sunsation 07-26-2010 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 3168161)
Jeff,
I didn't want to have to do it, but it is done. You are now on double secret Cigarette probation.

Not for nothing but Cigarettes are tainted........

THAT WAS THE ONLY BOAT SUNKIN ACTUALLY OWNED! :D

pm203 07-26-2010 09:09 PM

Can that be proved?

fireguy 07-26-2010 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by frickstyle (Post 3161127)
It's the Cigarette tax.

Ok, that's the funniest thing I have heard in a long time and that is one seriously beautiful boat.


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