F'n ethanol
 

This crap is just BAD!!!!!

Luckily it's not the boat that's the problem. I've got a 10 year old leaf blower that I rarely use and it has been a bit(h to keep running this summer. Finally it would start for 2-3 seconds and cut off REPEATEDLY.

Felt certain it was fuel issues so I cleaned the carb/air filter, etc with no success. Seemed like an air leak and inspected the little primer bulb very hard......finally tore the entire unit apart to find the fuel line running inside the tank has deteriorated terribly where it sits in a stabilized fuel tank. It's letting air into the line (even inside the tank) which breaks the vacuum and no more fuel is pulled.

This crap is gonna cost me $200 for another one because of $.50 of fuel line that is part of the dam fuel tank!!!!




If you have any of these older engines DON'T STORE THEM WITH FUEL IN THE TANK.

amen.....i hate it...

Blame it on the eth eth eth ethanolllll, blame it on the eth eth eth eth ethanolllllllllll.......................

STABIL makes a new fuel stabilizer for marine (or lawn equipment use) that is blue instead of red. it removes the ethanol from the fuel to prevent stuff like this from happening. you also use it as an additive to the fuel when you fill up to help further protect the engine and components. makes my boat run a little smoother when i add it to the tank

Yup, i had to replace the fuel line in the tank of my weedeater last fall and it was kind of a pain in the arse. But, it works well again and weedeater had the parts to me in no time.

You need to do a little more research. I do use the green Stabil and it does NOT remove ethanol. It does help keep the fuel fresh but the ethanol will dissolve older rubber just as quickly as it would without Stabil.

The squirels ate the vent screw off the fuel tank of my riding lawn mower. You think it was because of the ethanol? Or are they just getting into sniffing gas? Either way, it is funny.

This is a new product from AMSOIL, give it a shot! I've heard nothing but rave reviews!

http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/aqs.aspx

I use seafoam no problems so far.

Your boat hasn't been in the water in 2 years. Of course you aren't having any problems.

better be cheap+good cause I would need approx 20 doses of that stuff to do my tank..

I don't know if that's true or not, but that is funny chit

You must be thinking of all your chit boxes in your front yard.. My boat has been out for the winter and until now.. Oh and I wasn't refering to my boat mr know it all:evilb: now go drink some Drank and watch some asian cartoon porn while you rub one out in the rhino.:evilb:

Now back to the scheduled program...:drink:

Isn't this your boat?

It may be since I have not seen it for 2 years..:coolcowboy:
that boat needs way more than seafoam:eek:

Small Engine Solution To Your Gripe
 

You can go to your local lawn mower shop and buy the "50 Fuel".

Sure, it cost a bit but it comes with NON-ethanol 89+ octane with synthetic oil and stabilizer already premixed in the can.

Has a 2 year shelf/storage life right out of the can. Costs me bout 5 bucks for a can and it lasts long enough to do the whole yard twice.

http://www.50fuel.com/

Same here. recently lost a weedwacker(probably could have fixed it, but got sick of working on it), and the generator carb had to be rebuilt, then I strpped the bowl screw out for the generator carb, so had to replace the whole carb.

Last night I pulled the entire unit apart, brought the gas tank in to the shop and found replacement fuel lines to put in it. If I get it back together tonight and it doesn't fix this thing you'll hear it crash land in the field behind my house from 2 states away!!!!

I just replaced the fuel lines on my gas Homelite SX-135 string trimmer last weekend. The lines deteriorated and failed. It cost me a couple bucks and 10 minutes to replace them. The trimmer is at least a dozen years old and has been run on ethanol blended gas pretty much it whole life. Minnesota has had ethanol blended gas for better than 10 years now. If it was the ethanol that ruined the lines, it took a damn long time to do it.

We are having nothing but problems with it at our shop. I at least get 2 boats in a day with problems from ethanol.

i have had the same things happen to my trimmer and blower for the yard , fyi the govt thinks this is a really great idea to blend ethanol and fuel which is stupid . cause there is no up side nothing runs as well as straight fuel no matter the octane level . e 85 cars are an absolute joke and half of all fuel pressure regulators fail cause of ethanol . the best part is we the tax payers pay for this by giving farmers more money for corn crop that will be used for creation of ethanol rather then food . stupid govt !

Just like using corn to make sugar! High-fructose corn syrup is the worst thing in the world we can put in out bodies!!! Net Flix this documentary, it talks all about corn. http://www.kingcorn.net/

I just literally threw my Ryobi across our driveway last week because of fuel leaking and it not running right! I guess I can blame it on the fuel as well. I went with the Stihl, I am done with the Home Depot and Lowes crap power equipment! At least now if something happens to this unit there are several locations around my house that has the parts and/or can work on them!

two marinas on my lake still get non ethonal gas for a extra .12 a gallon. Well worth it. Only issue is i like to run 93 and its only on the lake in two spots and they both have the ethonal blend. The marina that have ethonal gas seem to be astounded the other can get the non.

We've had ethanol for 3+ years. Mine was simply not running right...had to completely dis-assemble the entire unit to get the gas tank out (My Stihl trimmer has the tank externally mounted, not this POS). The fuel line section that sat in the tank just cracks and splits with any contact now that it is out. I'm expecting replaciong those lines will fix it.

I have a few high end Stihl chain saws. My Stihl dealer told me to not use any ethanol fuel more than 30 days old. Doug

About the only complaints I ever hear about are with older boats. Have you seen a patter at all?

Older boats
Carb vs injected?
spring bad/summer not too bad

A few carbed inboard boats. Not any fuel injected i/o boats. But alot of outboards with both. We are a Honda and Yamaha dealer and see alot out of both.

Thats why I buy all my gas for the CC with a yammi, at Colonial Beach, non ethanol 89 octane. Yea....its a little more exspensive, but worth it in the long run.

+1
I am in the grass cutting business and I have had brand new machines that wouldn't idle after a week of use because of crap fuel. My dealer told me to make sure I am using 93 and he gave me a list of stations that have fuel without ethanol. I now use only non-ethanol 93 and have no issues.

I had a fuel issue with the apache this spring and 2 gallons of sea foam and several water seperating filters took care of it.

E-gas
 

Russ, I have been using the Startron additive for over 3 years. No problem with with any of my equipment. I am testing an additive from Bell Additives out of Florida. I had alot of trouble with my equipment before I started using the additives.

Last time I checked, corn commodities were traded on the open market. What the government kicks in is LDP Loan Deficiency Payments.

Use SEAFOAM! That's what the Farmers use.

The VEETC subsidies are 51 cents a gallon, direct to ethanol producers. $7.6 billion this year. That's just the direct subsidy, not everything. Thirty years on the dole, ethanol has to go.

I too have heard from many that Startron is the best product. One dealer in Indianapolis I know virtually eliminated the problems when he started using it exclusively.

I have had mixed results with Startron. My 496 HO will not see ethanol again with a $1500.00 bill. Marina non ethanol is $4.00 per gallon. On the other hand I use startron in my carbed 2 stroke outboard with a fiberglass fuel tank and no problems. If you want to know more about ethanol problems, check this web site Fuel-testers.com. It has alot of information. Pay and smile!!!:angry-smiley-044:

this week alone I think we have cleaned/serviced over 110 gas injectors, all but one set were for outboards....

Fergot you did this, let me know the details, my motor has been in the garage for 6 months, and may want to thave them done now that it is going back into service.

Why are outboard injectors some much more a problem. Are they smaller? just wondering.

Is this a stupid question... can you us additives with the two stroke fuel?

they sit for awhile, sometimes longggg whiles.... then get run twice as hard... 4 stroke Yammi's and HPDI's seem to be the worst victims..