Mercury 1350 In Production
 

This is as official as it gets, http://www.boats.com/boat-content/20...in-production/.

Nice!

Sold out through March 2011...:eek:

How many is sold out?

I bet the number is not huge. Takes well over a hundred hours to hand-assemble these things.

The number definitely isn't a huge, though I don't know exactly what it is. I do know that several pairs are going to MTI, which if I'm not mistaken has ordered the most.

A few months ago, Fred K. told me that Mercury Racing could ramp up to building 300 a year, if the demand was there. He was quick to add that he didn't see the demand going there soon.

I also think you're dead right in the number of hours it takes to assemble this engine.

Price?

List price at $202,000 complete with an M8 drive.

Exactly.

you could get into PPS turbines and Arneson #8 drives for less money = longer lasting package more power lighter set up. and I know a guy that installs them:coolcowboy:. turbines can be 1475hp or 1800hp. :coolcowboy:

Why whistle when you can roar.

turbo= no roar

I know the Cigarette at Miami had the 1350's. Any other builders have a set and testing them? Any feedback?

I'd like to see exactly why it takes over 2 work weeks to assemble. I realize its a beast of engine and yes it is bada$$ ....BUT really? Over a hundred hours?

That's a good question. How long does it take to assemble an Ilmor engine? How long does it take Teague to build one of his 1200 motors? Sterling? Eddie Young? Tommy?

The Ilmor V-10 is a basic N/A push rod engine. Apples to oranges compared to a big honkin forced induction motor. But i'd also like to know how long it takes Sterling or Chief, Merc etc....to assemble these monsters

I don't know and can't speak for the others, but it takes me about 300-350 hours to completely assemble a pair of my 1200's. Am I slow....sure. Am I careful....yes. That is intentional. I could certainly bolt all of the parts together in an afternoon, but chances are good that they would come right back apart......no tools required.:drink:
The above time does not include machine work or dyno time, however it includes all of the prep, cleaning (which is probably half of the total time) assembly, wiring, plumbing, etc. I have literally spent 2 full days fitting main bearings alone in one block. But that is why I can stand behind them. If you use the best parts and take the time to do it right, then it should stay together. Bottom line....it takes a TON of time to do it right and you can not rush it.
Eddie

Using Eddie's math (and I've heard similar work-hour numbers in like power engines from Teague and Sterling), the 100-hour mark per 1350 engine makes perfect.

To answer another question: The AMG Cigarette is the only boat currently equipped and running with 1350s. As I mentioned in my article, the first production pair of 1350s began build-up in late July. They likely are done by now, but I don't know if they've been shipped and I know they haven't been installed and rigged as of right now.

What manufacture are they going to?

Pretty sure they're going to MTI, though I don't have confirmation on that.

Headed to a 48' MTI I believe.

A nice red one that has been patiently waiting since the motors were announced.

WindShip is her name I think. :grinser010:

Does anyone know what the maintenance intervals are on these? Hrs on engine before rebuilds, cost of rebuilds? Plus, who is qualified to do the maintenance....

Did anybody hear the test numbers from the AMG cig. or was it just built as a show peace ?

Its running close to 140 so far.

Im very curious about this as the Merc 1000+ HP units have RIDICULOUS maintenance (like 25 hour inspections) intervals and costs. I've seen twin engine planes cheaper to maintain, and along those lines you can watch high HP merc boats values sink in direct proportion to rebuild time - just like a plane.

Id bet these are better as the valvetrain is a big part of the issues and these are far closer to ideal from an actuation standpoint.

Not that a guy looking at this package probably cares, but its good to know so we can all dream.

Im totally spoiled with my Ilmor products relative lack of maintenance.


Uncle Dave

Now THIS is the man I'd want to build my motors.

He gets it.

To really try to stay ahead of any potential failures on motors of this size, having them tuned & looked over on every oil change, or every other one, is essential. It does cost money, but it's pennies compared to having one fail. A fluid change, valve check, & overall "physical" can help you catch a loose bolt, cracked belt, sticky valve, etc, before it finds you.

I think you may be referring to the rebuild cost of the Mercury 1075 packages, when you mention the ridiculous service intervals? They are done at approximately 100-120 hours, and cost roughly $20-$25k per motor to REBUILD, if nothing is already broken. You still do regular valve checks, fluid changes, etc, during that 100-120 hour period, but it's not at all insane on the price, unless the mechanic doing it is really sticking it to you. Mercury doesn't have to do the regular service work, unless you just want them to.

You shouldn't be paying a lot more to have the oil changed on a 1075, than you would on a stock 502, other than the difference in cost for the type of oil you choose to run. A valve job isn't astronomical either, as long as you don't have one sticking out of your head, or block, lol.

I think the new Mercury 1300/1350, is the biggest step forward in high performance boating, that I can remember for a long time. Being able to run HUNDREDS of hours, with that kind of horsepower, torque, and do it all on 91 octane WITH a one year warranty, is just incredible.

There are several good threads about this, many have your feedback in them.

Ive seen various inspections and rebuild intervals quoted on the older Merc engines I read somewhere the valve inspection interval on the older engines was like 25 hours.

This would mean at even my moderate level of use- I would end up taking a boat into the shop for inspection every single trip I take.

Agreed this is a huge step forward.

UD

http://www.mercuryracing.com/_media/pdf/freshenup.pdf

The very first sentence basically says it all.

UD

Looks like those big valves and seats get beat up quick.

Sure seems like it.
I hope one can get those valve covers off without removing headers- other wise what a PIA.

The new stuff looks just awesome, and I wonder what the operational costs really are.

UD