Fiore On Outerlimits Engine Program
 

Interesting stuff, http://www.boats.com/boat-content/20...ress%E2%80%9D/.

Saw one go KA-BOOM at Boyne Thunder this year...

It was BAD!

Anything can go KA-BOOM at those levels.My hats of to Mike and Outerlimits for pushing forward and investing in the company,given the current state of affairs with the economy.

Matt did you ask what diesels went into that 52?

FPT 560's

First run 112 mph, at the limiters. :coolcowboy:

FPT what's that? How much HP? What drives? Multispeed transmissions?

FiatPowertrainTechnologies=FPT. They make a couple of million engines every year incl marine engines.
The 560 is a Cummins 6,7 l with a lot of mods from FPT.
560=560 hp at 3000 rpm(3150 max)
FPT has a 600 hp kit for racers. Fabio Buzzi use 4 of these engines in his "CESA" raceboat.

The OL 52 SV has ASD8 x 4 with Hering propellers.
No multispeed. SCS -dropbox -crashboxes with 10 min gearchange.

Fiat Powertrain. very good power to weight ratio, they also have a great service network in the UK, where this boat will live. Custom SCS Quick Change offset gearboxes with SCS crashboxes mated to Arneson Drives. There will be plenty of photo's to follow

Thanks 707! :) I would like to see a list of mods that Fiat has installed on the 6.7. I wonder if they installed twin turbos or a single-sequential turbo...

animalhouse - what gear ratio did they hit the 114 with?

What a great project. I've heard of a bunch of diesel builders overseas not commonly known in this country, but I had not heard of Flat Powertrain. Sounds like high-quality power mated to high-quality drives.

I am not trying to dis anyone because I love the diesels as you all know.

There is nothing revolutionary about this whole package except it has been updated with newer engines, better props and 100%more efficent hull. Ok RIK better drives as well - LOL! The Hp, ratios, etc will be similar to what has been done years ago with similar results.

Buzzi, us (Super Hero) whoever you want to call it did this over 20 years with basically the same thing. A 46' mono hull, 4 - 600+hp diesels, direct drive no multispeeds, quick change gearing offset gearing (Ok the ZF was not so quick change but we had many gear sets) and over 110 mph.

I am very happy to see someone bringing this back to life with newer technology it was a great package.

What still perplexes me to this day is why no one that I have seen has tried to dupilcate this until now?

just heard something today about Zack's boat & his engines Mikey!!! kinda interesting??????????????? Call me Buddy & remind me of that good rum U had at the docks!!!:party-smiley-004:

The old Morboro boat really made a lot of black smoke in 1998. Danial Sceoli used to drive it. Spelled wrong Im sure. New diesels will probably run cleaner.

Freedom, never said we were environmentally friendly!

There are OPT'ers on here, the Coast Gaurd stopped the diesels from running in Key West because of the soot trails they left.

The new engines make all the difference in the world.

Scioli's boat was the newer Gancia and that boat was leaps ahead. I can't imagine given what Outerlimits can do today how far ahead the are from the old Gancia.

We need them to build a nice 41 twin or triple engine boat with Q's in it as a pleasure boat.

Single turbo(LARGE!) with wastegate. Nothing special.
FPT had the block beefed up from Cummins. Stiffeners around the crank. Not sure, but I think the combustion chambers and valves are modified and there is a large, watercooled, intercooler.
The 3150rpm ceiling could have been a bit higher.
I have a pair of FPT 560,s with ZF 300 ATS,2-speed, waiting to be installed during the winter:)

Hey Habana!

Don't think I (or anyone else) used the word "revolutionary"—that's a big word for sure—just cool ... and a first for Outerlimits. On the other hand, as you point out, the hardware has definitely improved since back in the day. Still not revolutionary, but vastly improved.

Sort of related: My first 100-mph V-bottom ride was on an Outerlimits 37 Stilletto will Zul engines. God, that seems like a a long time ago ... because it was.

My point was people get so "wowed" by this stuff because as you see and know diesel people still run around and can't figure how to make a diesel boat go into the high 80's or 100 and above.

Everytime someone talks about diesel here the "Gale Banks" duramax and supports jump all over it and say "see, see if it had that" or "Gale Banks has one".

Truth is if they had it for the 4 years people on here talked about it you would have seen it, you don't even see test mules or offshore type running beta's let alone a production engine you can purchase - I thnk that closes the book there for now (I hope they do it)

The word "revolutionary" although not quoted might be strong BUT agreed it is super cool - LOL!

The technology to this is simple and proven and I'm glad to see people like Outerlimits have b*lls enough to just do it as they Nike says.

I enjoy reading your interviews and keep it up!

Everytime someone talks about diesel here the "Gale Banks" duramax and supports jump all over it and say "see, see if it had that" or "Gale Banks has one".

Truth is if they had it for the 4 years people on here talked about it you would have seen it, you don't even see test mules or offshore type running beta's let alone a production engine you can purchase - I thnk that closes the book there for now (I hope they do it). HabanaJoe


GM sold Banks the motors for the Marine project because they didn't have the expertise and experience Banks had in the Marine environment. Their Marine project went slowly because GM was reluctant to supply more than just a few engines. Now, with Dmax production ramped up at GM, more motors are coming to Banks. Very soon now, Banks will enter into a project with(I believe) IMCO to test motors in different boats.

As I reported, the Coast Guard, or Homeland Security, got the first two motors. Pleasure boats will be next. I would like to see Skater, MTI, Nor-Tech, Cigarette and others get involved with these motors. They are cutting-edge on the diesel front.

I hear you. To some extent, there really is "nothing new under the sun." Improvements do tend to be incremental, and I think it is important to remind people of what's gone on before. Buzzi and Scioli and others contributed a lot on the diesel side of offshore performance. Credit does need to go where it's due.

You and others have piqued my interest enough to follow up with more detail from Mike Fiore at Outerlimits. Look for another piece to post (if I can catch him) later today.

And thanks for the encouragement.

PLEASE LOOK INTO TOMMY BAHAMA MTI THEY SPENT A FEW YEARS DEVELOPING A DURAMAX. THEY ALSO RACE DIESELS BEFORE THE MTI

OK what about the "Tommy Bahama MTI" - where is it, when did it run, etc, etc, etc - Unless you know different I call these failed experiments, prove me wrong?

While its not diesel, here's a little 509ci engine from Outerlimits, 110 octane.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJYghs9OGxY

That's cool.

Im no rocket scientist but I think its great!. There is no reason Mercury Racing needs to be the only game in town. Outerlimits needs to do it, Nortech needs to do it, and Zul needs to do it. Im sorry but Richie Zul had a great thing going and for Mercury to threaten Cig, etc is not fair. There needs to be competition in the marketplace. It wasnt a bad thing to be able to get a Top Gun with NA Zul motors in it. Sorry, but my .02

Did any 44SL's make the shootout? I'm guessing not.

I didn't see any. I was looking hard for one because I really wanted to check one out in person. They build a beautiful boat and I would love to climb around in one and scope it out.

I think it would be safe to say that an Outerlimits built engine would be first class, just like thier boats.