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GTOFFSHORE 08-28-2010 09:30 PM

The boat needs a flat reflective surface for radar to get a good return. If you put some reflective tape that they use in construction zones from home depot on a sponson tip and have them aim at that should get a good return.

Young Performance 08-28-2010 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dkwestern (Post 3193927)
Sorry to hear that Eddie, hopefully you and the boat get the # you deserve!! 151 is flyin, was the previous high 137?


The previous top speed was 142 mph.




Originally Posted by Poker~N~Run (Post 3193932)
The boat needs a flat reflective surface for radar to get a good return. If you put some reflective tape that they use in construction zones from home depot on a sponson tip and have them aim at that should get a good return.

Right now, I couple of my guys went to Home Depot to get some of the aluminum tape that is used in AC ducts. We are going to put it all over the front of the boat. Hopefully it will help.

omerta one 08-28-2010 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by Catmando (Post 3193788)
Wilds 40 MTI Little Speed - 104


Did he break something??

He's still in search of the right props...may have a better combo tomorrow.

littledcsrodshop 08-28-2010 09:55 PM

"gps/chartplotter said 151 mph and the radar said 118 mph. The boat felt better than it ever has and I knew it was running a good #. It's pretty simple math. I was running about 5600 rpm, 1.35 gear and 41 props. That's a bunch more than 118 mph"

:eek::eek::eek:

I seen you had to lift on the 2nd pass but wow !! Man I hope the duct tape does the trick !!

Yes I realize a 1 mile drag race is not the same as cruising down the waterway but I would be willing to bet that I'm not far off to say that 118 in that boat is a nice cruise at near 50% throttle.. Maybe even a touch less than that..

Young Performance 08-28-2010 10:07 PM

Yeah, 118 in that boat is nothing. We regularly cruise at 130+ in that boat. It really doesn't want to do anything funny at all until after 135 mph. It actually did exceptionally well today as far as handling. I was pleasantly surprised.

littledcsrodshop 08-28-2010 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by Young Performance (Post 3193951)
Yeah, 118 in that boat is nothing. We regularly cruise at 130+ in that boat. It really doesn't want to do anything funny at all until after 135 mph. It actually did exceptionally well today as far as handling. I was pleasantly surprised.

No doubt.. I know first hand it will run a touch over 100mph at 38%..:coolcowboy:

One thing about it if the duct tape does the trick you will undoubtedly start a new trend..;)

thisistank 08-28-2010 10:54 PM


Originally Posted by Young Performance (Post 3193924)
Hey guys. To say that I am dissapointed is an understatement. I have attached a pic of the GPS/chartplotter from the Skater. How or why the radar gun came in at 118 is still a mystery. The second run was my fault. I had the boat a little to stuck on the first run. It will start to lay over on it's side at speed if it is trimmed to low. Once it does that, it will not straighten back up without slowing down. It started on me and once it got bad enough to start veering off course, I stopped accelerating anymore and maintained my speed. I was to close to the finish to back off. ON the second run I loosened it up some and it got to loose. I felt the steering get real tight and had problems driving out of it to the point I had to lift. I got back into it and it started again. The steering got worse and I was forced to back out again. Long strory short, it pitched one of the power steering belts and it was just to hard to turn. We have it fixed and are ready for tomorrow.
Now to the bigger problem. I spoke with Ron Duggan, Bob Teague, and about 10 other guys that know their stuff as to why my gps/chartplotter said 151 mph and the radar said 118 mph. The boat felt better than it ever has and I knew it was running a good #. It's pretty simple math. I was running about 5600 rpm, 1.35 gear and 41 props. That's a bunch more than 118 mph. The general consensus is that the boats radar signature is not very good. We have been trying to figure out what to do. I am open to any and all suggestions. I spoke with a few guys that have had to run metallic stickers, radar reflectors, etc to get a better reading. I heard a bunch of guys complaining about their gps reading being more than the radar, but not 33 mph. The most I heard was 10 from Nauti. Everyone else seemed to be about 3-5 mph.
If anyone has an idea, please spit it out. Thanks
Eddie

By the way, I reset the top speed on the gps about 5 minutes before my run while I was waiting in line to run.

Get ahold of a radar gun (someone will have one, maybe even Teague) and see if the theory pans out. Do some test runs on your own working up from 60 to over 100. Radar is usually good for plus/minus 5mph.

Radar really isn't a good choice if you're basing your findings solely on a radar reading. Too much can affect the turn out. Co-sign effect, other moving objects, power wires, etc. Lydar would be way better but to lock lydar is a mo-fo on a boat. That tech. that they use to regulate speeds in certain offshore classes would be a good way to get consistant readings as well.

Good luck with the runs. Boats awesome.

Coolerman 08-28-2010 11:04 PM

we ran 117 in our Black Thunder

GLH 08-28-2010 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by omerta one (Post 3193938)
He's still in search of the right props...may have a better combo tomorrow.

Randy should of called I have a bunch of awesome props he could of used. I sure as **** did not need them.......

GLH 08-28-2010 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by saxman (Post 3193977)
we ran 117 in our Black Thunder

WoW......

omerta one 08-28-2010 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by GLH (Post 3193979)
WoW......

in reverse!


Truly a nice run...congrats!!!

Coolerman 08-28-2010 11:15 PM


Originally Posted by GLH (Post 3193979)
WoW......

there is a 51 OL with 1550's in our class that ran 110. We have alum foil in the front of our boat, and aim it right at the gun on the run. We had 118.5 on our gps.

Thank god Eddie isn't our class though, because I think he'd spank us pretty bad tomorrow!

FuelinAround 08-28-2010 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by Young Performance (Post 3193924)
Hey guys. To say that I am dissapointed is an understatement. I have attached a pic of the GPS/chartplotter from the Skater. How or why the radar gun came in at 118 is still a mystery. The second run was my fault. I had the boat a little to stuck on the first run. It will start to lay over on it's side at speed if it is trimmed to low. Once it does that, it will not straighten back up without slowing down. It started on me and once it got bad enough to start veering off course, I stopped accelerating anymore and maintained my speed. I was to close to the finish to back off. ON the second run I loosened it up some and it got to loose. I felt the steering get real tight and had problems driving out of it to the point I had to lift. I got back into it and it started again. The steering got worse and I was forced to back out again. Long strory short, it pitched one of the power steering belts and it was just to hard to turn. We have it fixed and are ready for tomorrow.
Now to the bigger problem. I spoke with Ron Duggan, Bob Teague, and about 10 other guys that know their stuff as to why my gps/chartplotter said 151 mph and the radar said 118 mph. The boat felt better than it ever has and I knew it was running a good #. It's pretty simple math. I was running about 5600 rpm, 1.35 gear and 41 props. That's a bunch more than 118 mph. The general consensus is that the boats radar signature is not very good. We have been trying to figure out what to do. I am open to any and all suggestions. I spoke with a few guys that have had to run metallic stickers, radar reflectors, etc to get a better reading. I heard a bunch of guys complaining about their gps reading being more than the radar, but not 33 mph. The most I heard was 10 from Nauti. Everyone else seemed to be about 3-5 mph.
If anyone has an idea, please spit it out. Thanks
Eddie

By the way, I reset the top speed on the gps about 5 minutes before my run while I was waiting in line to run.

Eddie we all know that you know your stuff and will get it worked out. I was hoping it wasn't mechanical problems but doesn't seem to be. Good luck tomorrow and be careful with her...not worth a risky unsafe run for a high number...

Steve 1 08-28-2010 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by Young Performance (Post 3193951)
Yeah, 118 in that boat is nothing. We regularly cruise at 130+ in that boat. It really doesn't want to do anything funny at all until after 135 mph. It actually did exceptionally well today as far as handling. I was pleasantly surprised.


Eddie, Fiberglass is invisible to radar and carbon fiber adsorbs the RF energy, your metal tape Idea is the way to go.

Young Performance 08-29-2010 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by saxman (Post 3193984)
there is a 51 OL with 1550's in our class that ran 110. We have alum foil in the front of our boat, and aim it right at the gun on the run. We had 118.5 on our gps.

Thank god Eddie isn't our class though, because I think he'd spank us pretty bad tomorrow!

Where do you have the alum. foil? How much did you use? I was thinking about using the alum. tape to hold down the aluminum foil. Do you have a pic you can post of your foil?




Originally Posted by kyboy1020 (Post 3193989)
Eddie we all know that you know your stuff and will get it worked out. I was hoping it wasn't mechanical problems but doesn't seem to be. Good luck tomorrow and be careful with her...not worth a risky unsafe run for a high number...


Nothing mechanical other than the p/s belt. I really hope we can figure it out to post a good #. The boat is really running and handling great.


Here is a pic of John's (Thunderusone) gps. He got a 117 on the radar and 120 on the gps. He is looking for a better number tomorrow now that he has a feel for the course. He was starting basically off plane, so he cost some speed in the beginning.

Eddie

Young Performance 08-29-2010 12:17 AM


Originally Posted by Steve 1 (Post 3193995)
Eddie, Fiberglass is invisible to radar and carbon fiber adsorbs the RF energy, your metal tape Idea is the way to go.

Thanks Steve. Do you have any other suggestions?

littledcsrodshop 08-29-2010 12:25 AM


Originally Posted by saxman (Post 3193977)
we ran 117 in our Black Thunder

I seen that run & it was impressive !! Congrats..

audacity 08-29-2010 02:15 AM

Congrats to Dave and JT for putting up an impressive number.

KiloKat 08-29-2010 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by audacity (Post 3194006)
Congrats to Dave and JT for putting up an impressive number.

Thanks Joe! Boat felt GR8. JT saw 217 on GPS and the boat was still pulling hard. Those Mystics are amazing boats at high speed!
Good luck tomorrow if you run & be safe!

sommerfliesby 08-29-2010 07:58 AM

UNREAL! Incredible job Mr.Scott...I'm sure that 1 mph to Callen's record will fall today!

What's up with JBS, Joe? Did you guys make any passes yesterday?

jayboat 08-29-2010 08:01 AM

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/...99a4f05f_b.jpg

yahoo 08-29-2010 08:07 AM

Go to west marine and get a radar reflector. Like sailboats use.

Put it inside the front and call it a day.

thumper038 08-29-2010 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 3193973)
Get ahold of a radar gun (someone will have one, maybe even Teague) and see if the theory pans out. Do some test runs on your own working up from 60 to over 100. Radar is usually good for plus/minus 5mph.

Radar really isn't a good choice if you're basing your findings solely on a radar reading. Too much can affect the turn out. Co-sign effect, other moving objects, power wires, etc. Lydar would be way better but to lock lydar is a mo-fo on a boat. That tech. that they use to regulate speeds in certain offshore classes would be a good way to get consistant readings as well.

Good luck with the runs. Boats awesome.

Got a radar gun you can use and I live 5 miles from the shootout sent pm to Eddie
Jim
www.ozarkspeedandmarine.com
573 280 9784

thumper038 08-29-2010 09:02 AM

Plus there is a pretty good straight run around the point from my house :coolcowboy:

Steve 1 08-29-2010 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by Young Performance (Post 3193999)
Thanks Steve. Do you have any other suggestions?

Go with the foil and also inside the hull at the bow on the radar gun side.

littledcsrodshop 08-29-2010 12:14 PM

Gino Mercedes MTI - 155mph
Global warmer fountain - 121mph

littledcsrodshop 08-29-2010 12:18 PM

Mark Tuck Fountain CC - 74mph

littledcsrodshop 08-29-2010 12:22 PM

32 Skater (x-Douglas race boat) - 124

littledcsrodshop 08-29-2010 12:26 PM

Fredrick Ley (368 Skater Noreaster) - 170

littledcsrodshop 08-29-2010 12:30 PM

Peppers/Lucas Skater - Stan Ware & Mike Stancombe - 116

littledcsrodshop 08-29-2010 12:42 PM

23 Warlock - 116

Looks like I missed a couple fast cats, while they broke for commercial

littledcsrodshop 08-29-2010 12:55 PM

I have lost the live broadcast feed for some reason.:angry-smiley-055::angry-smiley-055:

teamsynergy 08-29-2010 12:58 PM

same here...

teamusaskater 08-29-2010 01:00 PM

eddie young 121mph

teamusaskater 08-29-2010 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by littledcsrodshop (Post 3194192)
Gino Mercedes MTI - 155mph
Global warmer fountain - 121mph

gino, had Johnny Tomlinson on the throttles for his run

littledcsrodshop 08-29-2010 01:02 PM

Got it back !! :D

Please anybody feel free to fill in, add ect. to the speeds at any time, as I can't post them all so just trying to hit some highlights..

I just thought I would fill in for Darren a bit..

littledcsrodshop 08-29-2010 01:13 PM

George Eisenhart 26 Joker - 89

littledcsrodshop 08-29-2010 01:20 PM

JBS Turbine - 169

littledcsrodshop 08-29-2010 01:23 PM

John Hamerick 37 Ol - 117

Eddie Young YPM 399 Skater V - 121 (earlier today)

Chris Taylor 42 fountain - 108

Louie Marchese 35 Donzi - 107

will22 08-29-2010 01:30 PM

live feed?
 

Originally Posted by littledcsrodshop (Post 3194208)
I have lost the live broadcast feed for some reason.:angry-smiley-055::angry-smiley-055:

i cant find the live feed - got a link please?


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