Lightning Performance Group 50' Mystic at LOTO???
 

How did that four engine boat run? What speed(s) did it achieve? I missed the result of how it ran at the LOTO shoot-out.

I would have thought that Keith Eickert would have had it pretty dialed in, what happened?

I'm pretty sure it never came off the trailer. I think they ran out of time to finish rigging it.

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FULL SIZE

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That could explain the "no results." I figured KE & DO would have that dialed-in when it comes time to run.

Whats up with the tire at the back of the trailer?

Something I hadn't seen before- very trick setup that I assume assists in launch/retrieval of that beast. Maybe to keep the trailer from dragging at the top of a ramp?

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I had seen that same type of set up on the JBS trailer. I thought it was so the boat could be ramp launched and would aid in retrieval so the boat could rely on the rollers if the trailer cannot be fully submerged.

The boat is not complete. Still a bunch of rigging to do. The trailer is Don's own design. The trailer itself is not intended to be submerged. The boat is slid back hydralically on rails. Thus the wheels in the back.

It is considered a twin engine boat.

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My Dad and Don grew up together. My Dad has worked on many of Don's boat including his old GM Goodwrench Betram race boat, a Cougar, the 4 engine Skater, and now this boat. He built the dash and has been helping Don's crew with other misc. items on the boat. He said they were really busting hump in the weeks up to the Shootout but just flat ran out of time. Hopefully it will be on the water in LOTO next spring getting dialed in. This will be the first boat running those V-16 mills.

Nice steerable Arneson's same as Jet Set!

Why Arenson's instead of BPM? It also looks like the back of that Mystic is different then most of the others...

What's wrong with Arnesons?

It appeared at the Shootout that the trailer consisted of the main frame, and then a hydraulic slider that the bunks were actually fastened to. They never did launch the boat, but i would imagine that the wheels that you see supports the slider and the boat during launch. I would guess that the front of the sliding portion slides approximately 3/4's of the way back on the main frame. Pretty spendy setup, but I would bet that it makes lauching much easier at all different types of ramps.

Nothing, I like them. But most Mystic use BPM drives, and i wanted to know why they choose Arnesons? Why don't the others use Arnesons?

I don't see turbos or superchargers so these must be n/a motors? Imagine 4x 1700-2000 twin turbo motors yeeeeaaahhh!! :eek: :D

guys can barely keep twin turbo applications running in sync, it would be really tough to make this system work that way. How many years have people been trying to do this, I know Eickert has for along time and Nor Tech gave it a shot too, with Ron Potter.....

Call Brad at Smith Power or Tommy at Chief Engines. They seem to be getting along great with their turbo engine packages. Engine management has grown exponentially in the last 8 years.

I remember James Mullen's 50' Nor-Tech cat 'Warbird' when he was testing four inline Potter 850s. It didn't work well so he switched to turbines(at least that's what I think happened, you probly know the story better than I).

Thats a large looking oil cooler running down the side,the motors do look cool!!:drink:

Did this boat ever run or still running with v-16's?

Yeow. ...the custom work!

Curious minds need to know the progress on this bad boy.

It won its class this year at the shoot out. I think it ran 189.

Who has any pictures or videos of this beast?

the 188 in 2014 was with their new Black/Yellow 52' with vortech E85 v-16s. I think Myrick and Cosker were in the boat for the run....... The boat should run hard once it gets dialed in.

Dialed-in ? Not being a smart ass, I do not understand, has it been completely repowered and different drives ? Am I missing something that has not been posted ? It is still a four engine boat ? If so, it has been nearly five years since I posted this thread, how much more time is necessary to dial it in ? Educate me...

They built a new one last year.

The current boat had it's first run at the 2014 LOTO shootout and was pretty fresh when it did it.

Nate,

Thank you, I did read that the current boat in this thread....I remember seeing old boat, the boat I started this thread about back in 2010, not too long ago in the OSO Classifieds, the only thing I did not like about that four engine boat was the paint job, but I loved the boat and hardware.

Let me refresh everyone's recollection, going back to post #1 in this thread, "how did the first Mystic that had the 4 KE Engines run ? Did that ever get dialed in ? Why go a second hull ? There is something that is missing here, I like Mystic Boats, I like KE products, so I am not bashing nor do I have have an agenda, I like learning what works, what doesn't perform as expected, what changes worked, what changes did not work....I look to OSO and these thread(s) to learn and to hear from those who been there and done that.

I figured Keith Eickert and Don Onken would be as good as anyone on the planet on getting the bugs worked out of the first boat, so why a second boat ? Someone fill in the pieces, it may yet be a very interesting thread.

they forgot cup holders in the first :-P

1st boat:
-50'
-half canopy
-steerable arnesons
-NA V16's pump gas
-This boat ran 163 through the shootout once fully dialed in, which is impressive for a boat this size with NA pump gas motors.

2nd boat:
-carbon fiber (I think)
-52'
-Rudder and fixed shaft drives
-Vortech E85 V16's
-188mph loto 2014 (still dialing in)

I don't think there was anything wrong with the first boat, I think they just decided they wanted to go faster and needed a slightly different boat to do it.

Don wanted a lighter one so he built a new full carbon one

Now that is what I am talking about, a man with the info....thank you..

Photos taken at the 2014 Shootout:

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and one from the 2013 Shootout:

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I prefer the paint scheme on this the second Mystic, and 188 mph, that is very fast.....what is not to like...

They look fast at rest.

First boat boat was a wrap. Second boat is paint. Last I heard KE retired and no longer with LPG. Installing some of the last of his handy work this spring in a '70 GTO convertible. .

That is correct.