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Jbs Demolished By Piston Power
OK –I really don’t have time for this but someone really needs to state the obvious. Mr. Skater Dave and Mr. Sun Tzu are going about this in the wrong way in the General Racing Discussion section. I suspect what they are getting at is -a simple lack of “grace”. How does JBS conduct himself when he wins? I seem to recall an opening post by him to the effect of “JBS crushes Gieco” with the term “slaughtered” thrown in for good measure. However when he runs his boat to the point of destruction he blames everyone but himself for the inevitable damage – damage which is likely as a result of stressing structures and machinery beyond their design limits. Of course this is a feature of racing but if one has limited resources then one needs to preserve one’s equipment. I assume resources are limited as he claims to have mortgaged the family home and utilized the family savings to pursue his nautical adventures. Of course he could go the sponsorship route but apparently serious sponsors have eluded him to date - a point he has lamented at length on this forum. Is it a simple case of limited space for sponsor logos on his boat and towing vehicles? He could reduce the prominence of his own initials, dramatically positioned and at great size on his boat, or even take the drastic step of reducing the size of his blown up face on the side of his tow vehicles? Surely this would avail some further space for…hmm…sponsors…and thus free him to push his equipment beyond their design limits without regard to cost. Racing domination would soon follow as would the mass public adoration he appears to so desperately seek.
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U sure sound like 1 Jealous Mutha Fukcer
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OK.... chock another one up for the JBS haters.... what is that now...like 1 billion 2... geez... hate the playa not the game...
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Originally Posted by nautdesign1
(Post 3208606)
OK –I really don’t have time for this but someone really needs to state the obvious. Mr. Skater Dave and Mr. Sun Tzu are going about this in the wrong way in the General Racing Discussion section. I suspect what they are getting at is -a simple lack of “grace”. How does JBS conduct himself when he wins? I seem to recall an opening post by him to the effect of “JBS crushes Gieco” with the term “slaughtered” thrown in for good measure. However when he runs his boat to the point of destruction he blames everyone but himself for the inevitable damage – damage which is likely as a result of stressing structures and machinery beyond their design limits. Of course this is a feature of racing but if one has limited resources then one needs to preserve one’s equipment. I assume resources are limited as he claims to have mortgaged the family home and utilized the family savings to pursue his nautical adventures. Of course he could go the sponsorship route but apparently serious sponsors have eluded him to date - a point he has lamented at length on this forum. Is it a simple case of limited space for sponsor logos on his boat and towing vehicles? He could reduce the prominence of his own initials, dramatically positioned and at great size on his boat, or even take the drastic step of reducing the size of his blown up face on the side of his tow vehicles? Surely this would avail some further space for…hmm…sponsors…and thus free him to push his equipment beyond their design limits without regard to cost. Racing domination would soon follow as would the mass public adoration he appears to so desperately seek.
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:food-smiley-007::food-smiley-007:
Heck of a third post! Popcorn here, get your hot fresh popcorn...... |
Originally Posted by RunninHotRacing158
(Post 3208610)
U sure sound like 1 Jealous Mutha Fukcer
I criticize the puerile behavior of someone who happens to be in possession of an race boat and you consider this jealousy. So I guess it stands to reason that similar criticism should be levied upon Dave Scott and the boys at Geico given they own and race very similar machines? Please…….. Has it occurred to you that the grace which appears to be absent from Mr. JBS is alive and well in Mr. Scott and the Geico team? Interestingly these two have a pretty fine track record of gaining the support of substantive sponsors as well-funny how that works isn’t it. Forgive me if this all sounds a bit rude but I am not quite following your logic here. |
Comparing JBS and Nauti? Not even in the same league as racers or as gentlemen.
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Originally Posted by nautdesign1
(Post 3208606)
OK –I really don’t have time for this but someone really needs to state the obvious. Mr. Skater Dave and Mr. Sun Tzu are going about this in the wrong way in the General Racing Discussion section. I suspect what they are getting at is -a simple lack of “grace”. How does JBS conduct himself when he wins? I seem to recall an opening post by him to the effect of “JBS crushes Gieco” with the term “slaughtered” thrown in for good measure. However when he runs his boat to the point of destruction he blames everyone but himself for the inevitable damage – damage which is likely as a result of stressing structures and machinery beyond their design limits. Of course this is a feature of racing but if one has limited resources then one needs to preserve one’s equipment. I assume resources are limited as he claims to have mortgaged the family home and utilized the family savings to pursue his nautical adventures. Of course he could go the sponsorship route but apparently serious sponsors have eluded him to date - a point he has lamented at length on this forum. Is it a simple case of limited space for sponsor logos on his boat and towing vehicles? He could reduce the prominence of his own initials, dramatically positioned and at great size on his boat, or even take the drastic step of reducing the size of his blown up face on the side of his tow vehicles? Surely this would avail some further space for…hmm…sponsors…and thus free him to push his equipment beyond their design limits without regard to cost. Racing domination would soon follow as would the mass public adoration he appears to so desperately seek.
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I was thinking dumped... but fired works....
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Originally Posted by nautdesign1
(Post 3208606)
OK –I really don’t have time for this but someone really needs to state the obvious. Mr. Skater Dave and Mr. Sun Tzu are going about this in the wrong way in the General Racing Discussion section. I suspect what they are getting at is -a simple lack of “grace”. How does JBS conduct himself when he wins? I seem to recall an opening post by him to the effect of “JBS crushes Gieco” with the term “slaughtered” thrown in for good measure. However when he runs his boat to the point of destruction he blames everyone but himself for the inevitable damage – damage which is likely as a result of stressing structures and machinery beyond their design limits. Of course this is a feature of racing but if one has limited resources then one needs to preserve one’s equipment. I assume resources are limited as he claims to have mortgaged the family home and utilized the family savings to pursue his nautical adventures. Of course he could go the sponsorship route but apparently serious sponsors have eluded him to date - a point he has lamented at length on this forum. Is it a simple case of limited space for sponsor logos on his boat and towing vehicles? He could reduce the prominence of his own initials, dramatically positioned and at great size on his boat, or even take the drastic step of reducing the size of his blown up face on the side of his tow vehicles? Surely this would avail some further space for…hmm…sponsors…and thus free him to push his equipment beyond their design limits without regard to cost. Racing domination would soon follow as would the mass public adoration he appears to so desperately seek.
.....Unless you are trying to spell Geico. :drink::evilb::drink::evilb::party-smiley-004: |
Sure seems like some sort of Motive behind this thread. You can share with us..One of us May be a Doctor :)
I know Jeff has had his Ups & Downs, But Haven't we all? I'm not leaning either way,(as I have wondered some of the same things in the past) just wondering the motive for the thread. |
Originally Posted by fastdonzi
(Post 3209065)
Sure seems like some sort of Motive behind this thread. You can share with us..One of us May be a Doctor :)
I know Jeff has had his Ups & Downs, But Haven't we all? I'm not leaning either way,(as I have wondered some of the same things in the past) just wondering the motive for the thread. |
I have NEVER read a post by Dave Scott that ragged on one of his suppliers like Jeff Stevenson did Turbine Marine. If Dave has a problem with someone he deals with it in private, not on a public website where potential sponsors might be lurking. Besides, it's just bad form to put one's business out in public.
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Originally Posted by Tom A.
(Post 3208653)
:food-smiley-007::food-smiley-007:
Heck of a third post! Popcorn here, get your hot fresh popcorn...... |
Originally Posted by PARADISE ISLAND
(Post 3209047)
So when did you get fired by him:evilb:
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Originally Posted by Catmando
(Post 3209084)
I have NEVER read a post by Dave Scott that ragged on one of his suppliers like Jeff Stevenson did Turbine Marine. If Dave has a problem with someone he deals with it in private, not on a public website where potential sponsors might be lurking. Besides, it's just bad form to put one's business out in public.
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Originally Posted by nautdesign1
(Post 3208606)
OK –I really don’t have time for this but someone really needs to state the obvious. Mr. Skater Dave and Mr. Sun Tzu are going about this in the wrong way in the General Racing Discussion section. I suspect what they are getting at is -a simple lack of “grace”. How does JBS conduct himself when he wins? I seem to recall an opening post by him to the effect of “JBS crushes Gieco” with the term “slaughtered” thrown in for good measure. However when he runs his boat to the point of destruction he blames everyone but himself for the inevitable damage – damage which is likely as a result of stressing structures and machinery beyond their design limits. Of course this is a feature of racing but if one has limited resources then one needs to preserve one’s equipment. I assume resources are limited as he claims to have mortgaged the family home and utilized the family savings to pursue his nautical adventures. Of course he could go the sponsorship route but apparently serious sponsors have eluded him to date - a point he has lamented at length on this forum. Is it a simple case of limited space for sponsor logos on his boat and towing vehicles? He could reduce the prominence of his own initials, dramatically positioned and at great size on his boat, or even take the drastic step of reducing the size of his blown up face on the side of his tow vehicles? Surely this would avail some further space for…hmm…sponsors…and thus free him to push his equipment beyond their design limits without regard to cost. Racing domination would soon follow as would the mass public adoration he appears to so desperately seek.
As a member of JBS Racing for the past 6 years I hope that JBS Racing has brought some enjoyment to the fans of offshore racing. A big thanks to all our fans and supporters. |
Originally Posted by JBS Crew
(Post 3209103)
If you have such strong feelings towards Jeff or any other team members of JBS Racing feel free to share your real name and number and I would be happy to have a civilized conversation with you.
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Originally Posted by omerta one
(Post 3209099)
Quote of the fvcking year coming from you. :lolhit:
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[QUOTE=LubeJobs42;3209109]I'm sure John Cosker felt the same way![/QUOT
John Cosker and John Arruda are both silent for a reason........actually for different reasons.... |
[QUOTE=Double Down;3209169]
Originally Posted by LubeJobs42
(Post 3209109)
I'm sure John Cosker felt the same way![/QUOT
John Cosker and John Arruda are both silent for a reason........actually for different reasons.... |
All the trash talk about John Arruda a while back and there he was at the LOTO Shootout. Wonder what he was doing there?
John Cosker was there just to see which one of his creations were going to win. |
I have spoke to Mr Cosker before ,seems like a good and knowledgeable guy.
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Originally Posted by omerta one
(Post 3209099)
Quote of the fvcking year coming from you. :lolhit:
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so naut, when can we expect you to show up with your boat and show JBS how to race?
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From start to finish, this thread is a first-rate example of exactly what is keeping boat racing from becoming a viable sport.
Can anyone provide a message board thread where Rick Hendricks is trashing Jack Roush? Roger Penske trashing Chip Ganassi? Ron Dennis trashing Luca Montezemola? |
Originally Posted by C_Spray
(Post 3209278)
From start to finish, this thread is a first-rate example of exactly what is keeping boat racing from becoming a viable sport.
Can anyone provide a message board thread where Rick Hendricks is trashing Jack Roush? Roger Penske trashing Chip Ganassi? Ron Dennis trashing Luca Montezemola? |
Originally Posted by C_Spray
(Post 3209278)
From start to finish, this thread is a first-rate example of exactly what is keeping boat racing from becoming a viable sport.
Can anyone provide a message board thread where Rick Hendricks is trashing Jack Roush? Roger Penske trashing Chip Ganassi? Ron Dennis trashing Luca Montezemola? |
Originally Posted by METAL BROS RACING
(Post 3208902)
Comparing JBS and Nauti? Not even in the same league as racers or as gentlemen.
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Originally Posted by packinair
(Post 3209220)
so naut, when can we expect you to show up with your boat and show JBS how to race?
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Originally Posted by fastdonzi
(Post 3209065)
Sure seems like some sort of Motive behind this thread. You can share with us..One of us May be a Doctor :)
I know Jeff has had his Ups & Downs, But Haven't we all? I'm not leaning either way,(as I have wondered some of the same things in the past) just wondering the motive for the thread. Back to work |
Originally Posted by nautdesign1
(Post 3209596)
Ah the conspiracy theorists. I’ve never met Mr. JBS nor do I presently have any commercial affiliations with his suppliers. I have no agenda and am generally too busy to spend any time here-thus my anemic post count. However when I do browse these pages from time to time I can’t help but notice the way this chap carries on. My comments are based solely upon what I have read on this site but I suppose the phenomenon I find most bewildering (and why I decided to post) was the sheer number of individuals here that appear to blindly support his extraordinary behavior. I was brought up to show humility when you win and offer congratulations when you lose …but maybe I am out of touch with what is considered sportsmanlike behavior these days…..
Back to work You've never met Mr JBS, don't have time for things like posting on a forum, but the way he chooses to carry himself angers you so bad, that you've made time to come here & post about him? The jealousy comment toward you, is sounding more & more relevant with each new post you make, if this is the case? The other racers have no relevance to what you're saying, so it "looks" like you have some agenda, or painfull jealousy toward JBS alone? Most of us are just curious what have they done, to make you go against the time you don't have for things like this, & the fact you've never spoken to Jeff, to make you carve time out to say these things about them? |
Here's what Jeff wrote in the racing section regarding the shootout. I don't see anything condesending about this at all.
So.....why the rant and the need to move this conversation from the racers section to the General discussion section? ------------------------------------------------------------------- Congratulations to all the Nauti Marine crew-awesome run! Everyone keeps saying only with piston power like it's some kind of disadvantage.you guys have proven it's dominance over turbines in a drag race. We had fun doing the shootout and look foreword to next year.__________________ Jeff Stevenson Owner/Driver JBS racing 2004 APBA National + World Champion 2004 APBA Hall of Champions inducteehttp://jbsracing.com [email protected] 920-419-5645 |
Being that I don't make in a year what JBS makes in interest in an hour I will say that I am glad he spends his money breaking his boat for his own satisfaction & the entertainment of others.
Being a gentleman no more makes one a good racer than not having a temper made John McEnroe a #1 tennis player. Talent is talent. Some go about displaying their charisma rather than dollars in their bank accounts. They are still good racers. It is an emotional experience that most of us will never truly understand or be lucky enough to experience. Just enjoy what is being brought to you by those with the cubic dollars to make it happen. Thanks to ALL the racers on all the scales that go out & make it happen! Without people in all scales of racing from small time, small budget like Brad Herrington (Team Kansas) and big time big budget like John Haggin or Dave Scott & even middle of the road like Tyler Crockett there would be a big hole in the sport we all love. Why bash them? It won't do any good & all it does is make you look like an jealous a$$hole. Be glad you have what you have & for God's sake, move out of your mother's basement. |
Not one boat can do everything the best, I belive for a shoot out piston power is the way to go, but if I want to do a Poker run, a Shoot Out, and then a Race. I will take a turbin boat any day. I doubt the piston boat would even make it to the first card stop.
Kinda like a tub'd c5 corvett with some 600+cu blower moter, beating a 24hr road race corvett in a drag race. There both C5 corvetts just built to do diffent things. |
We're all different, yet we all like the same thing.
Originally Posted by JasonSmith
(Post 3209904)
Being that I don't make in a year what JBS makes in interest in an hour I will say that I am glad he spends his money breaking his boat for his own satisfaction & the entertainment of others.
Being a gentleman no more makes one a good racer than not having a temper made John McEnroe a #1 tennis player. Talent is talent. Some go about displaying their charisma rather than dollars in their bank accounts. They are still good racers. It is an emotional experience that most of us will never truly understand or be lucky enough to experience. Just enjoy what is being brought to you by those with the cubic dollars to make it happen. Thanks to ALL the racers on all the scales that go out & make it happen! Without people in all scales of racing from small time, small budget like Brad Herrington (Team Kansas) and big time big budget like John Haggin or Dave Scott & even middle of the road like Tyler Crockett there would be a big hole in the sport we all love. Why bash them? It won't do any good & all it does is make you look like an jealous a$$hole. Be glad you have what you have & for God's sake, move out of your mother's basement. http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/...99a4f05f_b.jpg http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4105/...b869b8df_b.jpg |
Originally Posted by JasonSmith
(Post 3209904)
Being that I don't make in a year what JBS makes in interest in an hour I will say that I am glad he spends his money breaking his boat for his own satisfaction & the entertainment of others.
Being a gentleman no more makes one a good racer than not having a temper made John McEnroe a #1 tennis player. Talent is talent. Some go about displaying their charisma rather than dollars in their bank accounts. They are still good racers. It is an emotional experience that most of us will never truly understand or be lucky enough to experience. Just enjoy what is being brought to you by those with the cubic dollars to make it happen. Thanks to ALL the racers on all the scales that go out & make it happen! Without people in all scales of racing from small time, small budget like Brad Herrington (Team Kansas) and big time big budget like John Haggin or Dave Scott & even middle of the road like Tyler Crockett there would be a big hole in the sport we all love. Why bash them? It won't do any good & all it does is make you look like an jealous a$$hole. Be glad you have what you have & for God's sake, move out of your mother's basement. If my wording on that post somehow came across as a slight against those that frequent this site regularly then clearly my choice of wording was poor and you have my apologies. My view is in fact the polar opposite…and as you can tell I’m not exactly avoiding this place of late. As mentioned I’m simply reading the same outbursts from Mr. JBS that you are but it appears you have a complete disregard for how a person conducts himself provided he spends a lot of money trying to gain some notoriety. The recurring theme of you and your JBS co-fans seems to be an accusation of jealousy. However if I am a jealous person by nature, wouldn’t I be having a go at the person/team that has the most to be jealous of? Do you see any critizism of Mr. Scott or Geico? Mr. JasonSmith, Do you see me having a go at anyone other then JBS? Perhaps reread my posts and you will observe that I am suggesting JBS take cues from the other rather impressive teams. How do you get that I am bashing “them” from what I have written here? Also do you have any footage of McEnroe ripping on his opponents or gloating after a victory? I am happy to stand corrected but I think you should have used boxing as your example. On that one I’d have to shut the F#%@ up. Finally let’s assume for a minute that I am a person of modest means. Does that somehow make my line of inquiry less valid? Conversely if I show you the spoils of my multiple eight figure net worth that’s taken 20+ years to build does that change your views? Are you not capable of simply making a judgment call on the validity of the comment instead of attempting to discover some non-existent hidden agenda, motive or emotion behind the deliverer? There’s surely got to be more than five people here that are capable of grasping the point I am making….I feel like George Bush at a Taliban convention. |
Originally Posted by nautdesign1
(Post 3210034)
….I feel like George Bush at a Taliban convention.
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Are you a Nigerian email scamer? All this "Mr." crap had me wondering.
I don't have the education to help me obtain an 8 figure bank account balance, unless we are counting the digits to the right of the decimal. However, I do have the ability to understand trash talk, not because I am in the trash business, rather I have this unique ability to understand the humor often lost in the written word. Perhaps you should review that post regarding the "crushing" refer to. I took it as fun-poking from one competitor to another. Perhaps I am incorrect. Either way I think most humor is lost on you. I'm 1000% sure the sarcasm in my internal dialogue is not passing through in my written word. Enjoy making more of something than was intended. Good day sir, where do I send my social security number so I can claim my portion of your 8 figure bank account? |
Originally Posted by C_Spray
(Post 3209278)
From start to finish, this thread is a first-rate example of exactly what is keeping boat racing from becoming a viable sport.
Can anyone provide a message board thread where Rick Hendricks is trashing Jack Roush? Roger Penske trashing Chip Ganassi? Ron Dennis trashing Luca Montezemola? |
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