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Jay.....as usual, you stand above the rest with a classy move like this.
Thank you so much, for all you do for the offshore community. Your the best!!!! |
Wow Charlie, Sounds like you had a great time, even with the challenges and rough waters. It makes me a little envious to not have been there, but maybe another time and date.
Looking at some of the old photo's and results of that race from 1967, it sounds like you had similar conditions as did they then. Glad to here you are still in one piece. Former Copilot Miami-Bimini 2008 |
New Attempt at AROUND LONG ISLAND RECORD MARATHON RUN
An attempt at the N.P.B.A. AROUND LONG ISLAND RECORD will be made tomorrow morning, Sept 24th, 2010, 7 am starting at “Gong 15” off of Lloyds Neck, NY by Tom Abraham in his 36 MTI Cat powered by Merc 700 HP’s.
There will be a “liv “ satellite broadcast of him running at www.nationalpowerboat.com Tune in and see if he breaks Stu Hayim’s record of 3 hours and 6 minutes. THIS EVENT IS SANCTIONED BY THE NATIONAL POWERBOAT ASSOCIATION. |
Looks like Tom should have decent conditions tomorrow for his record attempt. Best of luck... wish I could make it out to watch him go by.
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Originally Posted by Top Banana
(Post 3213489)
My wife and I are having dinner tonight with Dean Gibbs and his wife. Dean is the British team owner with the 52 foot Outerlimits that raced last weekend Around Long Island. We met for a short time today and he said that he already has texts and e-mails from other owners in Europe and the UK, that he feels they will be coming back next year with at least four teams, to get that trophy and bring it back to Europe.
The dinner was quite enlightening. The Brits are very serious about getting a real offshore world circuit going again. They were very impressed with Billy Frenz and his satellite beacons on each boat. They use a similar system but said this one was much better. They loved the location that Guy La Motta provided. They loved the fact that this is so close to NYC and could be used by many potential sponsors, to really make an impact with their marketing promotions, and showcase their products to a major part of the US population and center of influence. They in short would like to make this Don Aronow Memorial Around Long Island Race as one of their races on the world circuit. The others would be, Cowes - Torquay and the London to Monte Carlo. They are unearthing many of the old trophies they have over there and will be using them for victories in various classes. And don't forget, they are putting on the Around Britain Race in 2011. We of course, would not have many competitors who would travel the world like that, but at least we would know that we are competiting agsinst the very best that Europe has to offer when they race here in the States. For our own circuit, we would want to limit it, to no more than four races spread over a year. The New York race, one in the Great Lakes, we already have an offer to help with that one. One in California....hopefully we can work with a group out there. And last but not least, Florida. Any offshore racers out there that like this idea??? Great day for you , Congratulations Charlie - Rich Great Write up. Charlie: We really do need a real Offshore race out here in the San Francisco California Bay Area. thank you Jim |
Originally Posted by Billy Frenz
(Post 3215453)
An attempt at the N.P.B.A. AROUND LONG ISLAND RECORD will be made tomorrow morning, Sept 24th, 2010, 7 am starting at “Gong 15” off of Lloyds Neck, NY by Tom Abraham in his 36 MTI Cat powered by Merc 700 HP’s.
There will be a “liv “ satellite broadcast of him running at www.nationalpowerboat.com Tune in and see if he breaks Stu Hayim’s record of 3 hours and 6 minutes. THIS EVENT IS SANCTIONED BY THE NATIONAL POWERBOAT ASSOCIATION. |
Stu had his 32 Skater. Im putting my money on Abraham to break it!!:D
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Originally Posted by Billy Frenz
(Post 3215453)
An attempt at the N.P.B.A. AROUND LONG ISLAND RECORD will be made tomorrow morning, Sept 24th, 2010, 7 am starting at “Gong 15” off of Lloyds Neck, NY by Tom Abraham in his 36 MTI Cat powered by Merc 700 HP’s.
There will be a “liv “ satellite broadcast of him running at www.nationalpowerboat.com Tune in and see if he breaks Stu Hayim’s record of 3 hours and 6 minutes. THIS EVENT IS SANCTIONED BY THE NATIONAL POWERBOAT ASSOCIATION. But the FPT powered Outerlimits mono - "Going Lean" will do it for the Brits! |
Originally Posted by Sonic30ss
(Post 3215086)
So that is what you've been working on in your secret photo lab....Thanks I love it!:coolcowboy:
that's a nice pic. congrats to the sonic team. not that you need it, but you guys certainly have my respect. |
Originally Posted by jayboat
(Post 3215007)
Congratulations, gentlemen!
In honor of the boat and crew that won this with a lot of heart. http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3007/sonicracer.jpg FULL SIZE |
What I can't understand is why weren't there any Apaches in this Don Aronow Tribute race??
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Originally Posted by Catmando
(Post 3216397)
What I can't understand is why weren't there any Apaches in this Don Aronow Tribute race??
If you trace the Sonic lineage back it is originally an Aronow design. |
Originally Posted by Sonic30ss
(Post 3216502)
I bet there will be next year!
If you trace the Sonic lineage back it is originally an Aronow design. |
Really, guys, DA NEVER, EVER, drew a boat.
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Originally Posted by BROWNIE
(Post 3216688)
Really, guys, DA NEVER, EVER, drew a boat.
With Formula he used the famous Wynn Walters team and then for many of his later boats....the even more famous Harry Schoell and his brother. Add to this, all the other talent that knew about engines, shafts, props, glass layups, and all the other pieces to the boat building puzzle. He put it all together and we have today what those people together..... produced. |
how did Abraham do?
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Result for around Long Island attempt
Tommy Abraham/36 Mti Cat w/700 HP Mercs, attempt at the AROUND LONG ISLAND RECORD OF 3 hours and 6 minutes, set by Stu Hayim in 1989;
Started at 7:05 am at buoy “Gong #15, Long Island Sound, (Lloyd’s Neck), travelling toward NYC, He made it to Atlantic Beach/Jones Inlet.(south shore Long Island) He broke a driveshaft/yoke He did 67 miles in 45 minutes and has 265 gallons of fuel left. BF www.nationalpowerboat.com PS: There will be a “satellite” replay on Tommy’s attempt on the website. |
Originally Posted by Billy Frenz
(Post 3217028)
Tommy Abraham/36 Mti Cat w/700 HP Mercs, attempt at the AROUND LONG ISLAND RECORD OF 3 hours and 6 minutes, set by Stu Hayim in 1989;
Started at 7:05 am at buoy “Gong #15, Long Island Sound, (Lloyd’s Neck), travelling toward NYC, He made it to Atlantic Beach/Jones Inlet.(south shore Long Island) He broke a driveshaft/yoke He did 67 miles in 45 minutes and has 265 gallons of fuel left. BF www.nationalpowerboat.com PS: There will be a “satellite” replay on Tommy’s attempt on the website. This is a test of boats, engines, drives, rigging, and crew chiefs....oh yeah....your throttleman better not miss on re-entry either........ I hope this doesn't become a series of "attempts of the week".... This is meant to be a race where winners face the course on a pre set date, regardless of conditions. Good luck to all.......next year......! T2x |
Originally Posted by T2x
(Post 3217321)
I hope this doesn't become a series of "attempts of the week".... This is meant to be a race where winners face the course on a pre set date, regardless of conditions.
T2x If conditions are great and all the stars align, I'm sure the record wouldn't be all that difficult to beat by today's boats, but lets not say the race record is XYZ if it was set by someone picking and choosing conditions and dates... Set the date for the race and may the best team win! |
Originally Posted by SS930
(Post 3217648)
That was my first thought as well when I read there was going to be a 'record attemp'... especially a week after the "race".
If conditions are great and all the stars align, I'm sure the record wouldn't be all that difficult to beat by today's boats, but lets not say the race record is XYZ if it was set by someone picking and choosing conditions and dates... Set the date for the race and may the best team win! That having been said Bill Sirois still holds the race record at under 4 hours set over 40 years ago.......and nobody but Stu has touched that one either. In truth this course should be used for the race...on a specific date IMHO....Even LOTO doesn't have a timed course laid out 365 days of the year. T2x |
Charlie that is real impressive and congratulations BTW Who did the drives?? they need a mention here.
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Originally Posted by T2x
(Post 3217905)
Stuart's record is a valid one and I disagree that it can be broken easily. Especially considering the hardware that has attempted it recently and none have made it 1/3rd of the way. If every performance boat on the East coast is going to try this every couple of days, the record will quickly lose its luster and become simply something to do if you have a megaboat.
That having been said Bill Sirois still holds the race record at under 4 hours set over 40 years ago.......and nobody but Stu has touched that one either. In truth this course should be used for the race...on a specific date IMHO....Even LOTO doesn't have a timed course laid out 365 days of the year. T2x IMHO it makes no sense to run a race like this on a weekend with the racers coming up the east river at the end of the run, it should be no later than 8am...too much traffic otherwise. |
Originally Posted by Steve 1
(Post 3217953)
Charlie that is real impressive and congratulations BTW Who did the drives?? they need a mention here.
BTW...are you going to be at OFF next week? |
Originally Posted by Top Banana
(Post 3218013)
Thanks Steve.......I believe that Joe does his own mechanicals, including the drives. Now that is real old school.
BTW...are you going to be at OFF next week? Yes Sir it is, I will try to be there. |
Originally Posted by C5Steve
(Post 3217986)
You also got to remember that Stuart and Joey chose and waited for the perfect Aug day to do the run and set there own course and starting point.
IMHO it makes no sense to run a race like this on a weekend with the racers coming up the east river at the end of the run, it should be no later than 8am...too much traffic otherwise. I thought the course was perfect, start out with a balls out run thru the sound, put in some seriously hard work driving from the Plum Gut to the East River (140-150 mi.) Then run thru city back to bouy 27. The river traffic was minimal and not any problem at all. |
Originally Posted by Top Banana
(Post 3218013)
Thanks Steve.......I believe that Joe does his own mechanicals, including the drives. Now that is real old school.
BTW...are you going to be at OFF next week? I pulled the other rebuilt drive because it had signs of water infiltration, oil came out very grey not green. I did not want to risk blowing an SS from water damage....they are like chicken teeth can't find them! |
Originally Posted by T2x
(Post 3217905)
Stuart's record is a valid one and I disagree that it can be broken easily. Especially considering the hardware that has attempted it recently and none have made it 1/3rd of the way. If every performance boat on the East coast is going to try this every couple of days, the record will quickly lose its luster and become simply something to do if you have a megaboat.
That having been said Bill Sirois still holds the race record at under 4 hours set over 40 years ago.......and nobody but Stu has touched that one either. In truth this course should be used for the race...on a specific date IMHO....Even LOTO doesn't have a timed course laid out 365 days of the year. T2x I would only consider this as a personal achievement and could't care less if any of the phenomenally influential ninety seven sanctioning boat racing bodies in the US bless it. Also with sat tracking (BTW that thing they have is awesome with the playback and so forth) and video technology available whatever time you do can be validated with minimal efforts. Nothwitstanding if I would do something like this I would choose the best weather window possible and do it strictly to prove something to myself. Mind you I would never claim to have a race record either. You'll always run into the "Yahh but Joe Schmoe has a boat and has done better then you" sitting comfortably at the end of the bar, miring in their own lack of achievements, but I usually remind myself what T. Roosevelt said April 1910... "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." Again great job, Joe, Jon and Charlie. |
Originally Posted by Sonic30ss
(Post 3218325)
I do pretty much everything but the drive work. I have 3 (one spare)- right now one of the drives on the boat was redone about 5 years ago by a local guy Tony T. It has the HD gear set from Merc. and the other one (the spare).....well I'm not sure whats in that one I think it still has the original small gears in it:eek:
I pulled the other rebuilt drive because it had signs of water infiltration, oil came out very grey not green. I did not want to risk blowing an SS from water damage....they are like chicken teeth can't find them! |
Originally Posted by Steve 1
(Post 3218497)
30 SS nicely done, Impressive Job! Best Regards.
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Joe thanks for making another old Sonic owner proud! Wonderful story. :)
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Originally Posted by FlyenBrian
(Post 3218992)
Joe thanks for making another old Sonic owner proud! Wonderful story. :)
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Once again....the only goal of HORBA is to do two things
1.) Save the old race boats before they are cut up and destroyed. 2.) Give the racers a venue to show or race the boats and let people see, hear and experience the real history of the sport. We have a lot of positive feed back from the Around Long Island marathon and this event will be done again in 2011. We have serious interest in the Great Lakes region for a 2011 event also. We need groups who are willing to put on this kind of event in California and Florida....one race a year is all we are looking for help with. We are trying to keep this as wide open and simple as the old days, so that eveyone has a chance to compete and win. Here are some suggested classes by T2X. I suggest broad class limits..... 3 or more gas or diesels up to 50 feet Twin inboard gas or diesels up to 40' outboards up to 32 feet Single inboards up to 32 feet and Nostalgia boats over 35 years in age.......... The part about the Historic boats being over 35 years of age would rule out anything newer than 1976, so in the interest in getting more of these boats out there running again, I would like to see that less of a restriction. But beyond that, it would be simple and easy to regulate and supervise. What do the racers think? |
very nice, now lets get some more boats to that race! Way to go little sonic
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Originally Posted by TOASTY
(Post 3220339)
very nice, now lets get some more boats to that race! Way to go little sonic
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I am not sure, but it seems that a number of the current GPS boats are about 20 years old.....(1988-93)....and they certainly don't seem like "vintage or historic". Perhaps 25 years of age (1985 and older) is a good minimum age (same as APBA's V&H rules).
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Not that I have a boat to race (yet?) but i agree with T2x, if I choose to go do this kind of racing the avialability of 35+ year old boats is a short list. From what i see you are all about trying to get a good number of boats back racing again for the sport of it. I would try for 1989 and older, just more boats out there?
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I am so glad you all had a safe time of it. It gives us all some hopeful ideas and goals.
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Originally Posted by TOASTY
(Post 3220429)
I am so glad you all had a safe time of it. It gives us all some hopeful ideas and goals.
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How different is hull of a 1987 Sonic 30SS from a new 31SS?
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Originally Posted by TOASTY
(Post 3220429)
I am so glad you all had a safe time of it. It gives us all some hopeful ideas and goals.
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