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rshrp 09-25-2010 08:19 PM

Whats better
 
Is it better to buy a factory "labbed" merc bravo 1 prop or buy a non labbed prop and have it Labbed aftermarket. Any advantages or disadvanges ?

JRider 09-25-2010 08:31 PM

That is a tough call and you will get a lot of different answers. I have had a labbed prop crack before on my outboard tunnel. It was a mercury labbed prop...not that it was their fault...labbed props are thinner and will have a tendancy to flex leading to cracks. I would choose whoever will work with you or reworks getting the prop to do what you want it to do.

Mastercraft240 09-25-2010 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by rshrp (Post 3216794)
Is it better to buy a factory "labbed" merc bravo 1 prop or buy a non labbed prop and have it Labbed aftermarket. Any advantages or disadvanges ?

Buy stock, run it. See what you want-- more bow lift, more stern lift, better mid range, better top end?, more cup or cut the diffuser off?. There's a lot of things you can do when you get a prop labbed. My point being, have it worked for you instead of a generic lab. And call Bblades.

t500hps 09-25-2010 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by mastercraft240 (Post 3216813)
Buy stock, run it. See what you want-- more bow lift, more stern lift, better mid range, better top end?, more cup or cut the diffuser off?. There's a lot of things you can do when you get a prop labbed. My point being, have it worked for you instead of a generic lab. And call Bblades.

exact answer I was going to type...before I read mastercrafts.

rshrp 09-25-2010 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by mastercraft240 (Post 3216813)
Buy stock, run it. See what you want-- more bow lift, more stern lift, better mid range, better top end?, more cup or cut the diffuser off?. There's a lot of things you can do when you get a prop labbed. My point being, have it worked for you instead of a generic lab. And call Bblades.

Iv'e been testing a B-1 26 p non labbed for my second season and have decided that going to a "labbed" prop for my boat is the best option. The real question is when I buy new and Labbed at the factory, are the specs / tollarences better than taking a chance that some one will meet the standards of the factory.

The reason for me buying new is the prop I have, developed a crack that can't be repaired

t500hps 09-25-2010 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by rshrp (Post 3216831)
Iv'e been testing a B-1 26 p non labbed for my second season and have decided that going to a "labbed" prop for my boat is the best option. The real question is when I buy new and Labbed at the factory, are the specs / tollarences better than taking a chance that some one will meet the standards of the factory.

The reason for me buying new is the prop I have, developed a crack that can't be repaired


Still the same answer. 2 labbed props from Merc or someone else can be different (unless they were made to be a matched set)

JRider 09-25-2010 10:27 PM

I believe BBlades was at one time a Merc Employee that did thier labbing...he may be a good choice for you.

rshrp 09-25-2010 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 3216848)
I believe BBlades was at one time a Merc Employee that did thier labbing...he may be a good choice for you.

Teague is selling b-1 factory labbed for $895 non labbed $549This is a good price for the Labbed. I know that you can get a better price for the non labbed but lets say I purchase the B-1 for $549 add the lab price of bblades $360 for a 4 blade prop. I know you get what you pay for but on a normal labbed prop the expectation is to get 200-400 more rpm so I would say 250-300 could be a realistic expectation, I'm talking factory. Could some one like b blades or an independant get more out of it? The perfect senario for me would be 400 rpm. I already know that pitching down to a 24p prop won't help.

CB-BLR 09-25-2010 11:31 PM

BBlades is great.

The advantage of buying Labbed Merc props from Teague is that you get them in 1-3 days...instead of 2-3 weeks wait time to have a prop labbed by someone else.

Another advantage of using Merc Labbed props, is that you can get them in 1 inch increments as opposed to buying a stock Merc prop in 2 inch increments and then having it labbed.

Third advantage to Merc Lab props bought thru Teague... is that I think they are cheaper than buying a stock Merc prop, and then having it labbed.

Just my opinion,

Chris

P.S. The $895 price for a Merc Lab prop bought through Teague also includes a new solid hub...which you won't get when buying a stock Merc prop...making this deal even sweeter.

Griff 09-26-2010 12:24 AM


Originally Posted by mastercraft240 (Post 3216813)
Buy stock, run it. See what you want-- more bow lift, more stern lift, better mid range, better top end?, more cup or cut the diffuser off?. There's a lot of things you can do when you get a prop labbed. My point being, have it worked for you instead of a generic lab. And call Bblades.

Ditto.

Merc has a standard lab finish recipe. It may work well for some boats and not others.
BBlades will lab the prop to your exact needs.

In my case, a Merc lab would not have worked and would have put me on the rev limiters. BBlades labbed mine, increased the rpm by about 100-150 and added some pitch/cupping. I'm right at 5100rpms now just shy of the rev limiter and picked up 2-3mph.

Mastercraft240 09-26-2010 01:38 AM


Originally Posted by CB-BLR (Post 3216867)
BBlades is great.

The advantage of buying Labbed Merc props from Teague is that you get them in 1-3 days...instead of 2-3 weeks wait time to have a prop labbed by someone else.

Maybe, but not always the case. I called Bblades on a monday morning. Said I needed a 26 labbed B1 for friday. He said no promises but he'll try to get it out. Thursday at 6 he calls me and said I'll have it by the morning.

Either way, I'd rather wait two weeks to have a prop tailored to my needs than get a prop in 3 days for convenience. Most people only boat twice a week at most anyways. So you're only saving yourself 4 boat trips. I understand your point though, and it should be one to consider.

CB-BLR 09-26-2010 03:44 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 3216876)
Ditto.

Merc has a standard lab finish recipe. It may work well for some boats and not others.
BBlades will lab the prop to your exact needs.

In my case, a Merc lab would not have worked and would have put me on the rev limiters. BBlades labbed mine, increased the rpm by about 100-150 and added some pitch/cupping. I'm right at 5100rpms now just shy of the rev limiter and picked up 2-3mph.

Definately there are times when custom cupping/work needs to be done to a prop... But since Merc Lab props come in 1 inch increments...that means you can tune your pitch/rpm in aproximately 150 rpm increments. Most people think that Merc props come only in even sizes... which equals to aproximately 300 rpm. Teague stocks every 1 inch increment of Merc Lab Bravo props from 22-36.

Typically thinning and sharpening a stock bravo prop will get you about 100-150 rpm... and usually a couple of mph to go with it.

Chris

redbud35 09-26-2010 07:56 AM

You won't be disappointed with Bblades. Brett has done several props for me.

laszlo01 09-26-2010 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by t500hps (Post 3216819)
exact answer I was going to type...before I read mastercrafts.

Ditto !

rshrp 09-26-2010 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by CB-BLR (Post 3216867)
BBlades is great.

The advantage of buying Labbed Merc props from Teague is that you get them in 1-3 days...instead of 2-3 weeks wait time to have a prop labbed by someone else.

Another advantage of using Merc Labbed props, is that you can get them in 1 inch increments as opposed to buying a stock Merc prop in 2 inch increments and then having it labbed.

Third advantage to Merc Lab props bought thru Teague... is that I think they are cheaper than buying a stock Merc prop, and then having it labbed.Thats why I wanted to stay w/ the 26p

Just my opinion,

Chris

P.S. The $895 price for a Merc Lab prop bought through Teague also includes a new solid hub...which you won't get when buying a stock Merc prop...making this deal even sweeter.

I haven't heard of the one pitch sizes, so merc has a 25p bravo prop? That could be a possibility. I am testing a 25 p 3blade today. Again I am looking for 400 rpm I could get it w/ a 24p but will loose speed.

CB-BLR 09-26-2010 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by rshrp (Post 3216989)
I haven't heard of the one pitch sizes, so merc has a 25p bravo prop? That could be a possibility. I am testing a 25 p 3blade today. Again I am looking for 400 rpm I could get it w/ a 24p but will loose speed.

Merc has odd (as opposed to even) size props only in their Labbed props...not standard Bravo's

I think they have them from 22-36 pitch in every inch increment. Call Teague and ask.

Chris

rshrp 09-27-2010 05:06 PM

I listened to everyones advise and ordered a 26p labbed prop from Brent at bblades today.The price was comparable to teague .I should see 250-300 rpm increase. hopefully I will be at about 5250-5300 rpm or 3 mph. He is working the prop to get more bow lift to smooth out the ride and for better acceleration if i understood this correctly.

rshrp 09-30-2010 11:50 PM

check out the pics of the prop/boat in the props sectiion


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