Fastest Skater with equal power?
 

I see quite a few new Skater's with 1075s being built. Just curious what is the fastest? 32, 36, 368, 388, 40? How about acceleration?

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I would assume the smaller / lighter boats (32's on your list) would be the fastest, assuming the water is calm enough and all other things being equal.

not true...there are some cases where the bigger boats are faster than the smaller boats with equal power

I remember someone saying a 36 is faster then the 32 with equal power

I am thinking the fastest hull with equal power is the 388.

And I remember hearing that a 38 is faster than a 36 with equal power..... I think this conversation came up when comparing the Amsoil (36) to the new Stihl (38) boat in the Super Cat class.

That is what I was thinking. My guess is the smaller cats might accelerate a tad quicker until the pack some air but after that the 388 is gone.

Then again you cannot forget about the 32", BAD, boat. Vinny and Jimmy have run some big numbers with this boat. But it may be the exception to the rule.

Julie

I would be shocked if a 38 would out run a 32 with all things being equal and the water conditions were well suited to the 32.

From the Skater website, models with 850's:
32 140MPH+
36 120-125MPH+
368 140MPH+
40 135MPH
No numbers given on the 388

Interesting...that 36 is a slow poke:lolhit::boat:

True. However Flight Clubs 36 hit 140 with 850's. Skaters #'s on the website seem to be off a bit.

I'd say the 388 is the ticket!

I agree, my 36 Flatdeck hit 142 when I was running light with 850's and around 137 when full fuel and passengers. However, with all things being equal I think the 388 will probably be the fastest followed by the 368.

The info on their website, is terrible at best. The insurance companies won't even use it for reference. http://smiliesftw.com/x/hsugh2.gif

The 368 & 388 are "supposed" to be the fastest all around hulls, but since they are all 99% custom built, there could be an exception to the rule at every size, depending on the setup. http://smiliesftw.com/x/hsughno.gif

What did the 32 with Merc 850's run from the Miami boat show in '04 or '05?? Yellow boat, tested in PRA mag I believe.

I also read on here (for ref) that a 368 with Merc 600's/#6 drives ran 127, out east.

True, most have custom power, and even if two boats had 1200's from diff shops (Sterling, Teague, Brad Smith, Brummett) still not apples to apples in true HP.

There was a 388 1075 boat at LOTO, that Blume semed to know.

I would think that the additional tunnel width & length of the 36 & 388 would make up for the weight disadvantage & then again layup comes into play. The results might also differ if you were comparing boats w/ 850's then compared the same 2 boats w/ 1000+ hp. There's obviously an minimum / optimum HP to weight ratio for each model & IMO once surpassed there maybe diminishing returns meaning the bigger HP will benefit the larger boats more than the smaller ones.

Again, this is why I was saying the 32, with all things being equal. Comparing a custom light layup 368 or 388 to a 'production' 32 is not apples to apples IMO. Now if you're talking about a custom 368 vs a custom 328 with equal build/options/features, now I think we're talking apples to apples.

Like I said, I think all things being equal the 32 will be faster (in the proper conditions). With that said, obviously the bigger boats have a huge advantage once the conditions get rougher...

All things aren't ever going to be equal since the tunnels on larger boats are longer & wider, nor will they weigh the same. My understanding is that no 2 flat deck boats are the same either, there is no template or fixture & Peter cuts them all himself.

The 368 and 388 can run rt around 130 with 525's (amsoil and stihl)
That's pretty darn efficient. Then you've got the 388's with big power running 188 +. I'd say that's a hard combo to beat.

+1

if things were able to be equal, physics says the smaller / lighter boats would be faster. but there are a lot of things going on besides length and weight.

That's Funny. My old 36 ( Bacardi Silver ) is still to this date the fastest piston powered boat with a 202 mph

Exactly. So going back to the OP's question, which is going to be faster? Let's compare like models and modifications.

It's not fair to say an ultra light lay-up 36 with the tunnel widened 8" is faster than a plain Jane 32 with the std tunnel/lay-up, therefore a 36 is faster than a 32. That's horse sh!t. Comparing a light weight 368 or 388 or a canopy boat to a std 32 is not comparing apples to apples! These boats have had the tunnel widened over the std model, are lighter, and possibly even a canopy! If you make the same mods on a 32 (328) so that both have equally widened tunnels with the same lay-up and areo, the 32 becomes much more efficient... just like the 36 and 38 do when you widen them 8", lightened, and a canopy is added.

Doing like mods to both and given the same amount of development/setup, the 32 will be faster. With that said, I'd rather own the 36/38 all day long, but that wasn't the question. ;)

I've had an ultralight carbon cut down 328 ob race boat and now have an all carbon Kevlar cut down 32 with 710 ilmors and #6's, if I put my power and drives on a 36, 368, or 388 with the same layup and deck those 3 would be faster. End of story. The 36, 368, and 388 are more efficient hulls. Don't shoot the messenger . Ps this is the 4 th skater I've personally owned, and I used to race a 36 triple ob boat (snake man) as well.

Lets face it this thread is never going to amount to anything more than bench racing UNLESS one of you order 2 boats from Peter w/ the same power & specifications that SRE is inquiring about.:party-smiley-004:

Count me out b/c I already own a Skater & ordering 2 more would leave me w/ 3 which simply wouldn't make sense.:drink:

That I would agree with! :drink:

I really like what you did with that boat. It turned out awesome!

BTW, I wanted to thank your club for the tremendous hangover I had this morning. LOL

Just thought this would be a fun thread to start up but like you said there really can't be a fair comparison.

ANYTIME. LOL. Make sure you come next friday for our Halloween Party. 200 strippers in THEIR wildest costumes.

Might just so that. Some close friends of mine are throwing The Haunted Kingdom party at the Rock Financial Showplace this Sat. Expecting about 2000 people. All sorts of little hotties running around. You should try and make it.

A std layup 2004 36' canopy skater with 525's , 8800 lbs, 1.50 ratio # 6 drives has gone 124 mph on the limiters. A bigger wheel should squeek a couple more mph, but that is still a very sweet speed for the power.