Poker run capable?
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Poker run capable?
Curious what would be considered minimally capable for Florida Powerboat Club poker runs.
The Tuff 28? http://www.tuffmarine.com/Boat_Pages...28_inboard.htm
The Tuff 28? http://www.tuffmarine.com/Boat_Pages...28_inboard.htm
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Curious what would be considered minimally capable for Florida Powerboat Club poker runs.
The Tuff 28? http://www.tuffmarine.com/Boat_Pages...28_inboard.htm
The Tuff 28? http://www.tuffmarine.com/Boat_Pages...28_inboard.htm
The biggest obstacle to smaller boats is your top speed is very likely the rest of the boats "cruise" speed. So if a run is going 65 MPH (in a 38 525 powered anything that is cruise) you will be running WFO.
The other thing is that boat will only run 95 MPH on relatively flat water, I wouldn't think you could maintain 60 in a 2-3 ft chop without having white knuckles.
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I've heard good things about this brand, but have never seen one up close.
jupiter is correct.
Whats the angle of the V in that boat?
It's one thing to be able to run in that water-
You also have to navigate and in a sub 30 non 24degree v's you have to expend considerable effort actually navigating while wave jumping as you start getting pushed off course.
The v angle starts to make a big difference in a small v with big waves.
I have a fast ocean capable 28 footer myself and usually run with boats 5-10 feet longer and its work if at all possible-
Same run on a lake the small boats become a better proposition.
Its still better to be out there rather than not and Im sure you'll run into a lot you can beat with it. It just wont be at poker runs in florida.
Keep us posted if you do go out though that boat looks fun!
Uncle Dave
jupiter is correct.
Whats the angle of the V in that boat?
It's one thing to be able to run in that water-
You also have to navigate and in a sub 30 non 24degree v's you have to expend considerable effort actually navigating while wave jumping as you start getting pushed off course.
The v angle starts to make a big difference in a small v with big waves.
I have a fast ocean capable 28 footer myself and usually run with boats 5-10 feet longer and its work if at all possible-
Same run on a lake the small boats become a better proposition.
Its still better to be out there rather than not and Im sure you'll run into a lot you can beat with it. It just wont be at poker runs in florida.
Keep us posted if you do go out though that boat looks fun!
Uncle Dave
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I have run with Mark side by side in some pretty nasty no wave pattern wind blown breaking 2 to 4 footers and the 28 does the job very well.
As for cruise speed, 80. It is a very well built custom boat. Nothing bad about its design or execution.
That said, was it designed to be an "ocean boat"? No. Will it run bow to bow with a 38 ft V in big swells? No.
As for cruise speed, 80. It is a very well built custom boat. Nothing bad about its design or execution.
That said, was it designed to be an "ocean boat"? No. Will it run bow to bow with a 38 ft V in big swells? No.
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If you want to do the runs, just do them. Dont let the boat dictate your level of fun. We did the Key west run a couple years ago in a 26 Sonic w/ a 496. were we the smallest and slowest boat there? Yes. Were we the last to all the stops? No. Fast boats dont always run fast for long!
We had an absolute BLAST, by the way!
We had an absolute BLAST, by the way!
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It's on the small size of boats, but you can have alot of fun
doing the runs. I had a 30Y2K Superboat. and the boat ran
94mph and I was one of the first V bottoms to the stop at the
Miami boatshow run last year.Boat ran and I kept up with the
big boys loved 2-3 chop. But I did do the Royal Purple Poker Run, and that lake beat the sh-t out of us. It was rough that day, lots of boats stayed in but we did the run and it was good 5's on the lake. Put that boat up forsale when I got home and bought a bigger boat. Just go have fun and besafe.
doing the runs. I had a 30Y2K Superboat. and the boat ran
94mph and I was one of the first V bottoms to the stop at the
Miami boatshow run last year.Boat ran and I kept up with the
big boys loved 2-3 chop. But I did do the Royal Purple Poker Run, and that lake beat the sh-t out of us. It was rough that day, lots of boats stayed in but we did the run and it was good 5's on the lake. Put that boat up forsale when I got home and bought a bigger boat. Just go have fun and besafe.
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FWIW - If I were wanting to ride in rough with a 28' anything I would prefer some more freeboard on the sides, and dropdown bolsters. I just personally don't feel safe in those sleeker style sit-down boats, but maybe that's just me.
If I were looking into a 28' boat for FL poker runs I would be looking more at the Pantera and Apache hull.
If I were looking into a 28' boat for FL poker runs I would be looking more at the Pantera and Apache hull.
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I really appreciate the replies, thanks.
I understand the 28 Active Thunder with a 525 is the more capable 28' rough water boat, but considerably slower. Is something like the 33 Active Thunder with 496HOs probably the minimum V then?
How about a 28 Skater? Are cats that much more capable in the rough? They the most efficient way to run with the group? Or are they more expensive (incuding insurance) that the 33 AT?
I understand the 28 Active Thunder with a 525 is the more capable 28' rough water boat, but considerably slower. Is something like the 33 Active Thunder with 496HOs probably the minimum V then?
How about a 28 Skater? Are cats that much more capable in the rough? They the most efficient way to run with the group? Or are they more expensive (incuding insurance) that the 33 AT?