semi wheels or lo-pro 24" on a dually anyone done it?
 

who has dealt with anyone good and bad lol..... looking to do a set like the way the low profile looks and supposedly if you use a/t tires they have the weight rating for towing....

i spoke with american force and they have direct bolt ons..... but you lose 25% of your turning radius so he said go with adaptors.... which i really dont want the extra rotating mass..... also spoke with with dieselwheels.com.... they make direct bolt on 24's with no issues and have a tire with a 4600 pound load rating ........ any experiences with these guys?

thanks

Ford, Chevy, or Dodge? Word of caution, these trucks with the low profile tires eat front tires. I don't know if it's the width or simply the use, but the front of duallies with 22/24s always seems to go through some fronts. That aside, I've done a number of trucks. You can buy from any of the players in the industry, American Force, DieselWheel, etc. Just make sure that if you do run a large bolt pattern with an adapter, that you do get a nice, high quality adapter. If rotating mass is a concern, this may not be the route for you. Most adapters are 1/2" billet steel, add the wheels and tires and you've got some monsters. If you chose the adapter route you can save some money picking up some used Alcoa's and turning the bead seat down. We've done a few on the lathe, turned the bead seat down, and I also turn down the actual wheel lip itself, many don't.

Word of caution.. no matter what you're told.. DO NOT stretch a 22 or 24" tire over a 22.5 or 24.5" wheel. I've seen it done, and attempted many times and it's a death trap.

its on a ford... and i do no really want the adaptors.... any reason not to go with direct bolt on from diesel wheel? they seem so far from my research to have the best product... just looking for some others experiences

I have the 19.5 Alcoa's with the adaptors on the Bridgstone 275/70's which have about 40k miles on the tires with lots of tread to go. Bought through American Force. I was going to put the 22.5's on with the low pro's so I wouldn't have to lift the dually but DAMN they're heavy! I opted not too since I was already towing over 10k with the Cig, the added weight was not welcome.

One question I have is what kind of tires are they (brand) I may be able to get you a deal on american force I have never dealt with diesel I see them every year at sema they build some awesome trucks.

On another note I would ask what the difference is between the american force direct bolt on and the diesel the only differences would be width or offset. If they are the same I would be leary of the different stories.

I own a wheel business the dually thing is kinda new to me but it has to be the same principals as wheels on anything else.

exactly my thoughts.... why not make it right the first time

You have to remember that the after market demands caused the rim manufacturers to produce direct bolt on. This has only been with in the past 3 or 4 years. Before that (like with my truck), direct bolt on to standard duallys was not possible. Neather was low profile tires due to the odd size rims (19.5, 22.5, 24.5) a lot of the custom guys would shave the half inch off of the rim to fit a street tire on the rim (not good for towing & most of the time would not meet load ratings for a 1 ton dually). Now you can get a low pro tire to fit direct bolt. I wouldn't buy an adaptor set up now, there's no point. I don't know why the turn radius would be better with an adaptor (maybe because it's like a spacer?)

Here's a link to the tire rack with the low profile tire sizes for dually rims. I think you'll be hard pressed to find one that will accept the combined load rating while towing your apache. But it does seem to be the latest trend so maybe people are finding a tire. Best thing to do is call on these tires and get the load rating (which I'm sure db71 could actually do for you).


http://tires.tirerack.com/tires/305%2040%2022
Looks bad azz but like I said, the rims are HEAVY (over 100lbs each)!!!

Ok If you don't mind give me the year and model truck. I am also interested as to what tires diesel (where they a semi tire) with that much load rating your ride would suck. The ones tank posted are rated at 2600 pounds that is our common truck size for 22" wheels on suv if you go 24" you would probably go 305/35/24 if you had 4 2600 pound tires in the rear you would be over 10000 pounds which is plenty my dads chevy dually with 16 rims is only 8800 rear and that is factory spec let me know if I can help

Ah, well with those ratings he's good to go! And yea, the Bridgstones I have on our truck are "tow truck" tires. Re-tredable big rig tires basically. The ride is stiff for sure.

I have been riding on cut 22.5" wheels to fit a 22" tire since 2002. Have not noticed any added front tire wear and never any issues. They ride better than my stock wheel and tire package. I have the adapter/semi style set up which makes for something like 28 nuts and studs (total) holding my front wheels on. I went with the cut wheels to get the lower profile tire with the thought of lowering the truck. I have since changed my mind on lowering. I think the tire size is 305/40/22 and has a load rating of around 2600lbs each. I got them out of Texas from the site chromewheel.com. No one even knew what I was talking about when I was looking to by here in FL. I claim to be the first in FL with them, but I don't know that for sure, and don't really care to be honest.

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Where's the pics!!??:drink:

after many phone calls today.... i am told you can run direct bolt on in 24" but the recc'd 10 ply pirelli tire for towing is discontinued ...... you will have a little bit of turning issue with the 24's and rub issue when towing.... when running the stock suspension

when i talked to american force he recc'd 22 lo pro with a dura grappler 285/50/22 that is a 3000 lb load rating

the 24" set up is apparently difficult because of tire selection

I agree I thought that when I was typing!!!

That duro grappler is a kind of aggresive tire also that size is large is your truck lifted if this is what you are set on let me know I bet I can get you a better deal american force sent me an email yesterday about 10% off now off of what I don't know.

american force, rides great no problems what so ever.

Ok a 285/50/22 is actually bigger than a 285/40/24 so if he says a 24 will rub and then tells you to put that tire on it has to make someone wonder why that would be said. Another thing is will you need spacers between the back wheels which will make your wheels stick out past the fenders my dads truck had 22 american force on it when we bought it withe adapters and they tore up the paint pretty bad.

on a ram 3500 i noticed that on certain roads the truck would sometimes follow the ruts created by semis, i guess tracking if you would...

I find it amazing that I get several different answers..... I hate the idea of adaptors and 22.5 semi tires(rotating mass) vs the 24 direct bolt on thinner tires... but the answers I get about towing with them ....is a shady "yeah no problems" ...which to me is great just send me the money

If you gave me yhe year and make of your vehicle I could help.

Some times answers are driven by inventory type situations maybe they have the 22 you like for your vehicle and not the 24 in stock maybe they cannot get thier hands certain tires right now. I'm sure not saying this is the case but it could happen. The wheel business is dead during December so inventory could be down or sales really wanted.

If you would like my help I would love to help we put big wheels on vehicles all the time a lot of times people don't realize that a 26" wheel only has a tire 1" taller than a 16" wheel most of my projects are not up your guys alley but he principals are still the same.

I agree on the 22.5 the rotating mass is alot. Also don't forget with the adition of any of these with towing you are probably going to want to upgrade your brakes and add a chip and reprogram the computer for the new tire size.

Hope this helps

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I have 22 from American Force on my truck with adapters no issues. The tires will wear fast on the front as you would expect but your talking a lot of $ to replace. I have about 13k miles on them and feel I can get to 30 with no issues. That all I expect out of these.
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No Ford Pics but you get the point

I have an 08 f350, with 2015 platinum conversion with 24in low pro semi wheels. I can't figure out how to upload it from my phone

lol post is 7 years old.... just upped and bought the big rig instead of the big rig wheels lol