Prelubrication system...
 

I just got my "Powerboat" issue for this month and I saw an ad for a prelubrication system called "master lube." I called and talked to them about my needs and it sounded good. I'm just curious if anyone has purchased this system and how it works or if anyone has any comments about what they've heard?

Thanks for your help!!

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Dang,

I'm about to inquire about drive showers and shazamm a post appears. Next I start wondering about mud flaps to protect the trailer and voila, enough info to choke a horse. So today I start thinking about a prelube system, ......and here's the thread! How am I supposed to pad my post count if everyone keeps beating me to it???


(OK, I'm now thinking about 43' Black Thunder giveaways);)

Frequency,

What is your take on the system?? Good idea??

I'll take a 43 Black Thunder, who wouldn't??

:D

Most evidence I've read suggests that up to 90% of engine wear occurs during startup. If this is true, a prelube system has got to help. Then I read threads about guys who have taken down engines with 500 hours on them and the bearings are tight as new. Guess we need to ask those guys if they are using prelube!

I agree. Anyone out there with that experience?

It depends
 

Theoritically it's a great idea- If I had expensive engines that had to spin over a bunch before they lit off I would definately make the investment.

My efi engine lights right off every time so it's hard to justify the benenfit. good luck!:D

Did you happen to see the write up for K&N Oil filters that have some sort of valve in them that holds the oil in and kind of does the same thing?

i have been running one on my engine for a couple of years. with a flip of a switch i have about 40 pounds of presure before i start the boat. with the investment that i put into the engine a few hundred dollars more wouldnt hurt especially if it does what they claim. i have not had the motor apart yet.

I also read about the K&N filter with the valve. If it works as advertised it should help.

Does anyone know if using after market filters/oil will void the warranty on the hp500? What about drive oil, if you switch to synthetic will it void the warranty on the xr's?. I am buying a new boat with 5 year warranties on the motors and drives and am wondering.:cool:

Someone told me that if you do use synthetic lube in the drive it could technically void the warentee. I am not certian, but I would call Mercury racing to find out for sure.:confused:

I would be interested in finding out your results.

I will call Mercury and findout. I will post when I get an answer.:cool:

OK
I had about 450hrs on my FORMULA when I did the engines (HP500'S). All looked good inside except the rear exhaust valves, a little corrosion. The boat was used in mostly fresh water, but went to the Keys several times. On my 41, I have the Kieth Eikert prelubers and use them each weekend to oil the engines BEFORE start-up. I don't know if this will actually help, but at $35,000.00 for each engine, I ain't taking no chances. Besides, you can plug in a hose and change the oil real quick. The difference between KE's deal and MasterLube is the KE is 12volt where as the Master lube is pressure activated. Once the button is pushed on the MasterLube you only have the stored pressure to lube the engine. With the KE when you flip the switch, you can build oil pressure and hold it for as long as your battery will run the pump, and you can change the oil with the same pump. My vote is for the KE preluber, but what do I know, I have one of those antiquated V-Bottoms that everyone thinks is so slow.
Robert

I have the Master Lube and they look great, looks like I have nitrous tanks in my boat.
If you have the extra room in the engine compartment the Master Lube will look great. But I have to agree with Medicine Man in that with the Eikert you can use it to pump the oil out.

I think that they call if Forplay :D:D:D

I agree with Medicine man. Those KE are the bomb. I actually bought a pair of masterlubes and never installed them. Wound up selling them on OSO. I am running the KE prelubers as well. When you are spending the kind of money we all are on these motors, it is insurance well worth it. I switch to the KE becvause of the constant oil pressure and also the ability to change the oil with the KE, and you can not with the masterlubers. Anything to make the oil change process easier is worth it. I think that with prelubers and frequent oil changes you can really extend the life of oyur motor. But, be prepared when you get the pricng on the KE. OUCH.

Plus I agree with the Doc, the look cool.

And yes, I asked about the synthetic gear lube in the drives, and technically it could void the warentee..... It usually becaomes an issue if the drive has to get sent back to merc and is not servicable by your local center.:(

KE's are awesome! Do not run the pre-filter though, unless they have opened up the flow!

sr-24-

Can you please elaborate?:confused:

Thunderdan
 

I purchased the pre-oiler with the pre-filter. When I ran the unit I could not get any oil pressure to show on my gauge, so I called Brett. He told me to remove the pre-filter and see what happened and sure enough I had pressure. He also said that they had opened up the pre-filters to flow better. This kind of made me mad because why sell me one that you know may have troubles if you've already fixed the problem. Anyway, I returned it and was reimbursed my money.

How much is the KE pre-oiler???

Just talked to Brett @ Eickert, the small filter is used between the oil pan and the pre-lube pump, not on the pressure out side of the pre-lube pump. It's job is to protect the pre-lube pump from damage from debris from the oil in the pan. Also the most pressure you should see on your oil pressure gauge with the pre-lube pump is 5 PSI. The filter is staying on my pre-lube system for my KE 675's.
Blue Skies,
Robbie

You're right and that's why he had me remove it. The filter was restricting oil flow so much that the pump couldn't even prime. Anyway, it's what the man said and like I stated they have made some changes.

Also, I was told I should see between 15 and 20 psi and that's what I get now. I've heard of people on this board seeing more than that.

I installed a EARL'S in-line filter between the oil pan and the preluber pump. I can't remember the micron of the screen, but it did not restrict the oil flow. I also installed a ball valve to cut off the flow of oil from the oil filter bracket to prevent back- flow just in case the check valve that comes with the preluber gets stuck open.

I have the KE prelube system and I show between 10-15psi. However I have to let the prelube run for about 1 min. before it stars to build pressure.

I do agree oil changing works great.:D

Pricing anyone...

Bueler...Bueler????

Sorry Sean I don't have any pricing for ya since the KE prelubes came on my KE800sc's. But call Keith 386-446-0660 he'll talk to ya..

Would you all like to see 40lbs plus?
stay tuned.......

I have KE's with the Weldon pumps and have 35 psi. Takes about 1 minute to pump out 12 qts.for a change.

My preLuber is exactly like the KE model, but I bought it directly form the distributor. Here's their link:
http://www.preluber.com
I used the standard automotive version because my boat rarely sees any salt. It's been holding up just fine. FYI- the "electronic module" is a POS and I didn't use it; just hook a toggle switch to the hot wire of the pump. I get about 20# pressure on the gauge in 10 seconds or so. I used the "oil filter adapter" option to make the plumbing easier. Pretty easy install and definately worth it if you have a newer motor.

What pump is Preluber using? KE was using the Weldon which is very expensive, not sure if he has changed. KE also supplied the anodized fittings, quick disconects and one way valves. From what I can see, the Preluber does not use a Weldon, which can probably cut the cost substantially.

OOPS! My apology to all... My pump is NOT like the KE model, but rather the Summit Racing oil pump (which I can't seem to find on their website). I guess the work week fried my brain more than I thought.:D :D :p

preluber
 

do not use esp products,pre-luber name brand,[email protected], i have 2 on my boat one motor burned up the other runs but dosent pump, took apart everry thing inside ok ,talked to 2 of their dealers they been haveing problems also ,they have droped them,the company will not warrenty, did not return phone calls, only got answer machinnes,did not return e mails, i strarted out only wanting tech help never got any body ,figure there going out busness? BUYER BEWARE.610-647-4942 their answermachine.:mad:

I wasn't aware of any problems with the company, thanks for alerting us. I guess I've been lucky- no problems at all with the unit in the boat or my truck. At least there are other companies out there that market a similar pump. :rolleyes: :(