DCB M31/M35- anyone agree with me-
01-14-2011, 01:31 PM
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Also side effects could be bloodshed....
Seems we always end up with at least one person "missing the grab" each summer and ending up back in the floor... we usually can bet on who it will be though and alcohol usually helps this factor tenfold
All joking aside,
What performance boat designs have the best bow access design??
Seems we always end up with at least one person "missing the grab" each summer and ending up back in the floor... we usually can bet on who it will be though and alcohol usually helps this factor tenfold
All joking aside,
What performance boat designs have the best bow access design??
I like how Cigarette incorporates the stairs into the cabin door on their newer boats, and at least have a step on their older boats to make it easier to access the deck.
I'd also prefer to not have someone have to step on the gauges/dash, or risk tripping over the windshield everytime they need to go up front. It's not a deal breaker, but definitely a consideration on any boat that I've had or have now.
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01-14-2011, 01:35 PM
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I was just thinking about this exact subject. After seeing the latest M31 video, I revisited my powerboat mag with the test on the red,white and silver M31 that was tested. I love the looks of the boat but noticed how the outside of the gunwales are shaped and think it would be a challenge for some people to get in and out of the boat. Other cats have areas to step when moving from the bow aft or just getting into the boat at the dock. MTI,Skater, Nortech all have areas to stand and step but the M31 does not. Also the way the hatches open to the engines also make it impossible to access the cockpit when they are both open. I love the looks of the boat but these two things make you think.
01-14-2011, 01:38 PM
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I've noticed a number of different boats, both vees & cats, that have this issue. People seem to overlook it until they are in the situation themselves, but I am always surprised that the manufacturer doesn't notice it when the boat is still in the design phase?
Having to step over, or on the windshield/dash area to access the bow is not only a pain, but can be fairly dangerous as well. If someone of average size falls, it can easily break the windshield or the gauges if that's where they land.
I've always liked the "Lightning" design over the "Fever" design on Fountains for this reason. It's definitely an important detail that makes a boat more or less user friendly.
Having to step over, or on the windshield/dash area to access the bow is not only a pain, but can be fairly dangerous as well. If someone of average size falls, it can easily break the windshield or the gauges if that's where they land.
I've always liked the "Lightning" design over the "Fever" design on Fountains for this reason. It's definitely an important detail that makes a boat more or less user friendly.
01-14-2011, 01:44 PM
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haha sorry Todd.... i know im a new guy...but im always wanting others opinions I have on certain makes/models... the DCB is just something that i was thinking about... And ya i agree that most spending this much probably arent thinking about getting in and out of it... but believe me... when the time comes,,, and another boat is about to hit or touch yours,, and you cant get out onto the bow bcuz the windshields in the way... then its an issue.... but i was just askn the forum... no disrespect... id be lucky to own a DCB M/F series....!
01-14-2011, 02:20 PM
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Quite a high post count you have there yourself. While you proclaim to be ubber efficient at docking when do you typically attach your dock lines and fenders? Before you rub against that nail sticking out of the dock or after? Egress to the bow and the cleats installed upon it is imperative and I have been to plenty of marinas that have a current, high wind or are a tight fit whereby when I throw a line to someone it certainly makes a world of difference. Without that ability, people are at the mercy of the environment. This DCB is not a boater freiendly boat. Catch a leg on the windscreen and trip off the boat, slip slide off the sides and land between the dock and a moving boat, or reside to being a crash test docker. PASS
01-14-2011, 02:25 PM
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haha sorry Todd.... i know im a new guy...but im always wanting others opinions I have on certain makes/models... the DCB is just something that i was thinking about... And ya i agree that most spending this much probably arent thinking about getting in and out of it... but believe me... when the time comes,,, and another boat is about to hit or touch yours,, and you cant get out onto the bow bcuz the windshields in the way... then its an issue.... but i was just askn the forum... no disrespect... id be lucky to own a DCB M/F series....!
Ask yourself this: When was the last time you saw DCB in any boat racing series, then ask why is it DCB racing?
Sure Dave builds a nice product, but there's always something better.
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01-14-2011, 02:27 PM
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I've noticed a number of different boats, both vees & cats, that have this issue. People seem to overlook it until they are in the situation themselves, but I am always surprised that the manufacturer doesn't notice it when the boat is still in the design phase?
Having to step over, or on the windshield/dash area to access the bow is not only a pain, but can be fairly dangerous as well. If someone of average size falls, it can easily break the windshield or the gauges if that's where they land.
I've always liked the "Lightning" design over the "Fever" design on Fountains for this reason. It's definitely an important detail that makes a boat more or less user friendly.
Having to step over, or on the windshield/dash area to access the bow is not only a pain, but can be fairly dangerous as well. If someone of average size falls, it can easily break the windshield or the gauges if that's where they land.
I've always liked the "Lightning" design over the "Fever" design on Fountains for this reason. It's definitely an important detail that makes a boat more or less user friendly.
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Quite a high post count you have there yourself. While you proclaim to be ubber efficient at docking when do you typically attach your dock lines and fenders? Before you rub against that nail sticking out of the dock or after? Egress to the bow and the cleats installed upon it is imperative and I have been to plenty of marinas that have a current, high wind or are a tight fit whereby when I throw a line to someone it certainly makes a world of difference. Without that ability, people are at the mercy of the environment. This DCB is not a boater freiendly boat. Catch a leg on the windscreen and trip off the boat, slip slide off the sides and land between the dock and a moving boat, or reside to being a crash test docker. PASS
Don't recall saying anything about efficient. Sorry to have upset you.
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It's all good. BLee pretty much nailed it. Would I own a DCB? Absolutely NOT when I could have a real CAT for damn near the same price. DCB koolaid and bling are overrated.
Ask yourself this: When was the last time you saw DCB in any boat racing series, then ask why is it DCB racing?
Sure Dave builds a nice product, but there's always something better.
Todd
Ask yourself this: When was the last time you saw DCB in any boat racing series, then ask why is it DCB racing?
Sure Dave builds a nice product, but there's always something better.
Todd
As you said "there is always something better". You can say that about everything and anything. It is just whats works for you. What does it really matter about the racing thing anyway.
