Whats better IMCO SCX vs Bravo1 XR?
01-17-2011, 10:50 AM
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Chris
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The Max Machine works drive uses XR internals...but a stronger case. The gears still are all Mercury...and therefore fail.
I love my SCX upper... the thing is bulletproof so far...and I am pushing over 1000hp.
On my boat (after correct setup) the SCX upper is about 1 mph slower than a Bravo style (SC upper)...buts lots stronger!
I would look at possibly using a SC lower, as they have thus been proven to be about 3-4 mph faster than the SCX lower. I think the trick to using the SCX lower is that it needs to be set up surfacing like a NXT or a #6 drive.
Just my rambling thoughts.
Chris
P.S. I hurt my SC upper (XR gears in a stronger case) with 700 horsepower.
I love my SCX upper... the thing is bulletproof so far...and I am pushing over 1000hp.
On my boat (after correct setup) the SCX upper is about 1 mph slower than a Bravo style (SC upper)...buts lots stronger!
I would look at possibly using a SC lower, as they have thus been proven to be about 3-4 mph faster than the SCX lower. I think the trick to using the SCX lower is that it needs to be set up surfacing like a NXT or a #6 drive.
Just my rambling thoughts.
Chris
P.S. I hurt my SC upper (XR gears in a stronger case) with 700 horsepower.
01-17-2011, 05:17 PM
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Kurt,
For what you seem to be doing.. I would think a properly setup B1 with steel tower and good top cap would handle it. At least it would be better than an XR with bad gears in it.
What is the weight of that boat and how hard are you on it, while racing?? I take it you race while pulling a skier? Is this ocean racing?
What size motor?? What kind of prop do you need to run to do this type of racing, what rpm will the drive see?
Dick
For what you seem to be doing.. I would think a properly setup B1 with steel tower and good top cap would handle it. At least it would be better than an XR with bad gears in it.
What is the weight of that boat and how hard are you on it, while racing?? I take it you race while pulling a skier? Is this ocean racing?
What size motor?? What kind of prop do you need to run to do this type of racing, what rpm will the drive see?
Dick
01-17-2011, 06:18 PM
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Dick
The dry hull weight will be roughly 750-800lb.
Thats obviously isnt that heavy compared to what alot of you guys are running.
We run predominantly offshore ski races here so in the rough stuff i would expect speeds to top out at 50-60mph and reach approx 100mph in calm conditions.
Engine will be 540ci fuel injected NA merlinIII (approx 650-700hp). Max rpm approx 6300rpm. Probably run a bravo1 prop or similar.
I also believe a B1XR will handle what im doing however if the price difference isnt astronomical i couldnt see why i wouldnt just purchase a SCX for complete piece of mind.
Can anyone tell me what a B1XR costs complete new to compare?
The dry hull weight will be roughly 750-800lb.
Thats obviously isnt that heavy compared to what alot of you guys are running.
We run predominantly offshore ski races here so in the rough stuff i would expect speeds to top out at 50-60mph and reach approx 100mph in calm conditions.
Engine will be 540ci fuel injected NA merlinIII (approx 650-700hp). Max rpm approx 6300rpm. Probably run a bravo1 prop or similar.
I also believe a B1XR will handle what im doing however if the price difference isnt astronomical i couldnt see why i wouldnt just purchase a SCX for complete piece of mind.
Can anyone tell me what a B1XR costs complete new to compare?
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The Max Machine works drive uses XR internals...but a stronger case. The gears still are all Mercury...and therefore fail.
I love my SCX upper... the thing is bulletproof so far...and I am pushing over 1000hp.
On my boat (after correct setup) the SCX upper is about 1 mph slower than a Bravo style (SC upper)...buts lots stronger!
I would look at possibly using a SC lower, as they have thus been proven to be about 3-4 mph faster than the SCX lower. I think the trick to using the SCX lower is that it needs to be set up surfacing like a NXT or a #6 drive.
Just my rambling thoughts.
Chris
P.S. I hurt my SC upper (XR gears in a stronger case) with 700 horsepower.
I love my SCX upper... the thing is bulletproof so far...and I am pushing over 1000hp.
On my boat (after correct setup) the SCX upper is about 1 mph slower than a Bravo style (SC upper)...buts lots stronger!
I would look at possibly using a SC lower, as they have thus been proven to be about 3-4 mph faster than the SCX lower. I think the trick to using the SCX lower is that it needs to be set up surfacing like a NXT or a #6 drive.
Just my rambling thoughts.
Chris
P.S. I hurt my SC upper (XR gears in a stronger case) with 700 horsepower.
Thanks,
Rod
07-31-2013, 08:52 AM
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DITTO, I have 740 hp and blew up my XR Drive to scrap mettal , put on a SCX with a SC lower and no problems , iTS NOT IF ITS WHEN YOU WILL BLOW THE XR WITH THAT KIND OF HP . Xr drive's a great for under 500hp, once you go over 500hp and if you want the drive to live its time to finish the drive train .
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