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Mastercraft240 01-18-2011 09:11 PM

Manifolds to CMI
 
Had the opportunity to pick up a CMI set up for a pretty sweet deal. Currently have manifolds wondering what difference if any that I'll notice switching to the CMI's.

vette131 01-18-2011 09:56 PM

built in water injection!

Griff 01-19-2011 12:52 AM

Thta would depend on what manifolds you have, what CMI's you got and how much power you are running. On a 500hp engine, I doubt you'll see a difference.

SS930 01-19-2011 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by vette131 (Post 3301011)
built in water injection!

No doubt. With all the problems CMI has had with grenading engines due to their leaky tin cans, there's no way I would go out and buy a set to put on my boat! If I were buying a replacement set, I'd go with SM.

Stormrider 01-19-2011 08:33 AM

CMI... too many problems being reported.
What do you have now, Imco powerflow?
If you were to upgrade to anything w/ your 650+hp, it'd be to a Stainless Marine Gen III.

Mastercraft240 01-19-2011 11:40 AM

I believe they're Etops and I was able to get rid of an item worth about half the price of the CMI's I traded for. If they're not worth putting on, I'll sell them.

Mastercraft240 01-19-2011 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 3301115)
Thta would depend on what manifolds you have, what CMI's you got and how much power you are running. On a 500hp engine, I doubt you'll see a difference.

546ci 650hp(ish).

Griff 01-19-2011 11:46 AM

From the vid in your signature, it looks like you have Gils. You should gain a little bit with the E Tops and your HP. If I had to guess, I'd say maybe 20hp.

SS930 01-19-2011 12:15 PM

If I see CMI's on a boat, I look at them as a liability.

They look great and make some power, but they're pretty expensive and ticking time-bombs!

Griff 01-19-2011 04:07 PM

I've had Gil manifolds crack, but my CMI's have never had problems.

Mastercraft240 01-19-2011 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 3301465)
From the vid in your signature, it looks like you have Gils. You should gain a little bit with the E Tops and your HP. If I had to guess, I'd say maybe 20hp.

20hp seems a little much. I thought I'd pick up a better throttle response, maybe a little torque, and a better sound...... but 20hp...... damn:eek::drink:

RunninHotRacing163.1 01-19-2011 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 3301501)
If I see CMI's on a boat, I look at them as a liability.

They look great and make some power, but they're pretty expensive and ticking time-bombs!

C'mon now lets not over exagerate here , have had CMIs on the last 6 boats and never had a prob ..... the whole fvcking universe is a ticking time bomb :evilb:

RunninHotRacing163.1 01-19-2011 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by mastercraft240 (Post 3302076)
20hp seems a little much. I thought I'd pick up a better throttle response, maybe a little torque, and a better sound...... but 20hp...... damn:eek::drink:

Bolt them puppies on you'll be glad ya did :coolcowboy: if your still skered let me know what ya want for them ..:drink:

Griff 01-19-2011 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by mastercraft240 (Post 3302076)
20hp seems a little much. I thought I'd pick up a better throttle response, maybe a little torque, and a better sound...... but 20hp...... damn:eek::drink:

The longer runners will help on an NA engine. 20 HP is only going to be about 1mph.

I switched from Gils to CMI's on my 525SC in my pantera and didn't really notice a difference, but exhaust is not nearly as important on an SC'd engine.
I will say that the CMI's look a lot better and its a lot easier to get to spark plugs.

Philm 01-20-2011 05:28 AM

Just make sure you drain them after every run Jay.

Gordo 01-20-2011 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by Philm (Post 3302160)
Just make sure you drain them after every run Jay.

?? Even in fresh water?

racer-x6 01-20-2011 11:21 AM

5 years on my CMI's no issues

Mastercraft240 01-20-2011 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by Gordo (Post 3302402)
?? Even in fresh water?

Good advice Phil-- thank you. Gordo, 100% of my boating is saltwater so flush every time regardless. If I were you, I'd do it as well. Better safe than sorry.

Philm 01-20-2011 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by mastercraft240 (Post 3302489)
Good advice Phil-- thank you. Gordo, 100% of my boating is saltwater so flush every time regardless. If I were you, I'd do it as well. Better safe than sorry.

Even in fresh water, if you have a small crack anywhere, leaving that water sitting in the headers gives it time to dribble down into the head. Go to crank it up and BOOM. Easier to just drain it.

SS930 01-20-2011 03:03 PM

RHR,
There are plenty of guys running CMI's for years w/o problems, does that mean there's no problem with them or that many others haven't grenaded their engine because their CMI's leaked???



OP,
They are a real potential liability. If the gamble is worth it to you, bolt them and roll the dice. Chances are pretty good you wont have a problem... but if you do it's going to be real costly!

At a minimum I'd suggest having them tested every so often.


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