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pm203 01-22-2011 08:01 AM

Initially, it was the Topgun hull, but then got modified. My boat sits in storage next to a 04 Topgun and the steps are in different places. That first Glad was an experiment. A rough, prototype that was improved upon greatly during the years of production following.

SVL-WARLOCK 01-22-2011 08:39 AM

Bob Bulls race boat was the best turning gladiator.They did exstensive work on the bottom. It was fast and still turned without the problems normally associted with this boat.

Bill Purnell aka Wanted has a canopied version that is also dialed in. He has more time in a gladiator than anyone. Ask him he will tell the good and bad.

SVL-WARLOCK 01-22-2011 08:41 AM

Berns29scarab. The boat in your profile is his old F1 boat. With a new deck or fixed deck. I think they replaced the whole deck. It was a nice running boat also.

Wahoo ATV 01-22-2011 09:20 AM

I seen one of these roll at 30mph in a straight away.

On a side note how many Fountains have rolled? We have spun ours many times and so have the other SVs and so far I haven't seen any roll. They just seem to side. Just curious as to others thoughts

omerta one 01-22-2011 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by Wahoo ATV (Post 3304247)
I seen one of these roll at 30mph in a straight away.

:eek: How does that happen?

Wahoo ATV 01-22-2011 10:51 AM

Tough to say. It was St Clair a few years ago.

BLee 01-22-2011 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by Wahoo ATV (Post 3304247)
I seen one of these roll at 30mph in a straight away.


Originally Posted by omerta one (Post 3304255)
:eek: How does that happen?


Originally Posted by Wahoo ATV (Post 3304304)
Tough to say. It was St Clair a few years ago.

If that actually happened, then that's some really, really chitty driving. No performance boat is built to where that could happen without major operator error.



Originally Posted by Wahoo ATV (Post 3304247)

On a side note how many Fountains have rolled?

We have spun ours many times and so have the other SVs and so far I haven't seen any roll. They just seem to side.

Just curious as to others thoughts


Fountains aren't immune either:

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/751/74img3937.jpg

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/7496/boatwreck3.jpg

Racegirl3 01-22-2011 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BLee (Post 3304319)
If that actually happened

It actually happened but I think they were doing 40 ... not 30

:party-smiley-004:

BRUCE SEROFF 01-22-2011 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by Wahoo ATV (Post 3304247)
I seen one of these roll at 30mph in a straight away.

On a side note how many Fountains have rolled? We have spun ours many times and so have the other SVs and so far I haven't seen any roll. They just seem to side. Just curious as to others thoughts

Lisa Mathews is one that went over.

BLee 01-22-2011 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Racegirl3 (Post 3304322)
It actually happened but I think they were doing 40 ... not 30

:party-smiley-004:

Going completely straight? That's the part that seems a little "polished" in the story to me.

pm203 01-22-2011 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by BLee (Post 3304335)
Going completely straight? That's the part that seems a little "polished" in the story to me.

Exactly.

OL40SVX 01-22-2011 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 3304358)
Exactly.

Either at 20, 40 or 92.9 I never had a problem with my Glad in a straight line. Something doesnt add up here.

berns29scarab 01-22-2011 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by BLee (Post 3304091)
It actually works opposite of what you said on a stepped boat like this one.

Having the weight in the back of the hull, keeps the steps "wet" which increases stability through turns.

Not having the weight in the rear, is what will cause the hull to get pushed around where you don't want it to go. The more centered or forward of center the weight is on a stepped hull, the more bow-steer can come into play & cause it to hook.

which is why you increase or maintain your trim thru a turn with a stepped hull boat

berns29scarab 01-22-2011 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by SVL-WARLOCK (Post 3304214)
Berns29scarab. The boat in your profile is his old F1 boat. With a new deck or fixed deck. I think they replaced the whole deck. It was a nice running boat also.

you are correct altho the deck was never touched. Bill traded the 27 Krypt back to Kirk for the 39 after racing the 27 3 times wanted something bigger. The 27 was then purchased by a gentleman from long island that used it as a pleasure boat from 02 until i just purchased it. I've been tryin to buy it since late 07 and finally did. It was also in the Sept 2000 Powerboat F-1 Shoot out

BobbyB 01-22-2011 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by omerta one (Post 3304255)
:eek: How does that happen?

It was going into a right hand turn at about 40mph. And i got that from the owner. :drink:

Interceptor 01-22-2011 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by BLee (Post 3304091)
It actually works opposite of what you said on a stepped boat like this one.

Having the weight in the back of the hull, keeps the steps "wet" which increases stability through turns.

Not having the weight in the rear, is what will cause the hull to get pushed around where you don't want it to go. The more centered or forward of center the weight is on a stepped hull, the more bow-steer can come into play & cause it to hook.

Good reply, I stated something very similar on thehulltruth.com in a thread on stepped hulls.

ed

Wahoo ATV 01-22-2011 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by BRUCE SEROFF (Post 3304327)
Lisa Mathews is one that went over.

Bruce, how did it happen? I am really surprised you don't see it happen more. In the last 5 years I can't remember too many vee hulls going over in races. I know Lavey, Wanted, Activator, and the Bat boat have. I guess 4 is getting up there

BRUCE SEROFF 01-22-2011 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Wahoo ATV (Post 3304424)
Bruce, how did it happen? I am really surprised you don't see it happen more. In the last 5 years I can't remember too many vee hulls going over in races. I know Lavey, Wanted, Activator, and the Bat boat have.

Im not sure. It happened at the Ft Myers race 2006.

Wazzup Racing 01-22-2011 02:48 PM

I believe she was running a 42 with Bravos. Gimbal failure if I remember right. She was haulin a@@ at the time.


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