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Old 03-04-2011, 06:48 PM
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you won't be waiting too long, also even though we broke an oil pump in Key west this year on Sunday, you may not have noticed that the OL put 42 seconds on the field in the first lap, the dry sump pump let go after the start of lap 3, and by then we had over 1 minute on the field, including everyother boat out on the course. It doesn't mean a whole lot because we had a part failure and couldn't finish, but it should go to prove that the OL is no slouch.

I respect your loyalty, and not taking anything away from the fountain camp, but getting tired of the bashing. Hope Liberty gives you the same support that Mr. Fountain gave you, and wish you continued luck with the new guys keeping you happy.

As much fun as we all have sticking our chests out and saying mine is better than yours and so on, it was still good for the sport to have some competition. I commend Reggie for all his past accomplishments, and wish him luck in his future venture, but the OL / Fountain comparisons are over as far as I'm concerned.

Stay tuned... your opinion may change
not trying to start any thing .How much power were those motors making in the OL in kw? I know at least 2 Fountains were running N/A supercat engines
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Old 03-04-2011, 06:54 PM
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Are we gonna see a repeat of somethin like rio rose & XXX? Sure hope so!!!!
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Old 03-04-2011, 08:40 PM
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Old 03-04-2011, 09:24 PM
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Post numbers????? There everywhere if you look. And by the way "wait till next year". "Its coming" Been hearing that for MANY years. I guess you never look into APBA or SBI records. Seems like the last time I looked, which was about 3 weeks ago, I did not see ANY records with Outerlimits name beside them. I think they are great boats, and I as for one would love to have one, but FACTS are FACTS.
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You must be referring to the Parts Runner days when you were running the unsealed 500's ++ I guess the ol was such a threat you needed an extra 100 hp per side ( or at least that's what APBA found when they disqualified you in St. Pete )
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Old 03-04-2011, 09:30 PM
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Animalhouse i wouldnt even take part in conversation like this, best thing for a manufacturer to do is keep building boats and proving things on the water. Fact is, any NON fountain owner will tell you an OL is a superior boat in every faucet, from workmanship, to style, to speed. Fountain makes a great fast boat, OL just makes a better faster boat. Facts are Facts and anyone not on the Fountain Teet who has ridden in both would tell you they would take an OL over a Fountain any day. Both boats are monsters on the race course.

If you ask me, the history of power boating was written Don, Reggie, and now Mike
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You must be referring to the Parts Runner days when you were running the unsealed 500's ++ I guess the ol was such a threat you needed an extra 100 hp per side ( or at least that's what APBA found when they disqualified you in St. Pete )
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I fell asleep waiting for OL to top the record
Chances are you'll still be asleep when they do beat it. Was at the OL factory earlier and it's nothing short of spectacular. Everyone there is a class act.
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Old 03-04-2011, 09:58 PM
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Once again you are stating something you know nothing about. I was not at St. Pete. And referring to Bennie Robertson running our boat, do you even know what was found in the engine. I doubt it. 16 lifters, no HP advantage, a different oil pump, no HP advantage and a couple of thousands longer valves because the lifters were a few thousands shorter, to make up the difference, and once again no gain in HP. The other engine was still sealed with Mercury seals. The only reason the engine was gone into was we blew it up, lost oil pressure, in the race in New York. It sure is funny to me and others when someone works hard at perfecting something and then wins and the first thing they can think of is CHEATER. Money does not win races, as evidenced at Daytona this year, dedication and testing and hard work is what makes a winner. And you have NEVER heard me complaining when we lost that our competitor was cheating.
As far as Outerlimits building a faster boat, good luck. Fountain does not have a patent on speed, just they had an owner that was willing to spend his and everyones else's last dollar to build the fastest v bottom out there. I am sure that Mike can build a faster boat, it just depends on how much time, testing and money he is willing to spend. Lets just hope he does not bankrupt the company doing it like someone else did.
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Correction: not valves, but 16 push rods were longer to make up the difference. Sorry
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Animalhouse, as I recall, there was some talk about protesting us in Key West by the Outerlimits team but they were informed that they also would be disassembled and therefore no protest was done. Maybe there was something they did not want found.
Another thing that seems to be forgotten was that Wild Child or Parts Runner was not the fastest boat in that field. Phil Lipship's?? Cigarette ran off and left us both at the start and broke a drive in the first race and then in the second race he left us in his wake for over a lap before breaking the other outdrive. After the race Bob Russell came over to us and congratulated us and that was very special and I will never forget that. Class act! Never spoke to Mike though.
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There was talk if protest. I asked the tech guys to whistle the engines prior to the beginning of the weekend. They were too busy. The reason we didn't get protested was we finished third after we lost a dry sump pump.

We were not worried about what they would find as we were and are within the rules. We are running 509" motors with conventional cylinder heads all by the rulebook
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